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If anyone does not know what a battery disconnect is, here is a sample:
https://www.harborfreight.com/battery-disconnect-switch-97853.html
It goes on the negative post and the cable then connects to the switch.Â
Unscrew the know a little and you disconnect the circuit. Take it all
the way out and you now have a theft deterrent to the casual car thief.
My TR6 has a slow drain - about a month before the battery gets too low
without the disconnect. My GT6 is only good for less than a week
without the disconnect.
Highly recommend adding one to your old cars.
Brian
On 9/30/2020 11:03 AM, Geo Hahn wrote:
> X3 on disconnecting the battery when not in use. I just leave the
> clamp loose enough that I can pull it off.
>
> "Now considering the design of these vehicles, there is quite an array
> of wiring that sits 'live' all the time, many unfused."
>
> That is why I have also installed fusible links on the brown wire and
> white wire circuits.
>
> Without those links the 'fuse' is your wiring loom. If you ever smell
> one burning... it is a scent that stays in your memory.
>
> Geo
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 8:48 AM <ptegler@verizon.net
>
>
> Here Here!
> In 2004 I had a dozen of so people in my garage, rebuilding 6-8
> transmissions in a group tech session. One fellow (without a
> tranny in hand) simply drove up in his Triumph for the day's
> event. One question he posed during the day to those in
> attendance, was what might be draining his battery when the car
> was just sitting for a week or so.
> We all told him to just put a battery cut-off switch in to be
> safe, at least until he figured out his long standing battery issue.
>
> Fast forward to 2010? - 2012? time frame...we (our gang) get an
> email telling of the demise of his car and his exit from the hobby.
> As the story goes, he heard a loud crack from the garage
> (attached). Upon opening the kitchen/garage door, he was met with
> thick acrid black smoke that instantly filled the kitchen/house.Â
> both his Triumph and wife's SUV were engulfed in flames. The
> smoke in the house was bad enough that it killed his two
> large amazon parrots. Needless to say building damage as well as
> the loss of two cherished pets and two motor vehicles was enough
> for the wife to say "you're done! no more cars!"
>
>
> Now considering the design of these vehicles, there is quite an
> array of wiring that sits 'live' all the time, many unfused. A
> little vibration and chaffing can easily reduce insulation
> thickness etc. Cracked and brittle jackets... the list goes on.
>
> IT CAN NOT BE STATED UNEQUIVICABLY ENOUGH..... INSTALL A BATTERY
> CUT-OFF.
>
> If for no other reason, the simplicity of safely working on the
> car as needed,.... theft deterrent, etc.
> If for a good reason, peace of mind, and the story above. (yes
> true story above..from someone that DID 'have a clue' about what
> he was doing.)
>
> ptegler
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 8:08 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
>
> We have battery cutoff switches on all our cars. Given the dicey
> electrics on these cars I think itâ??s a pretty important thing to
> do. Pretty much every time we walk away from the car we disconnect it.
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:17 PM
> *Subject:* [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
>
> OK, I have in the past inadvertently left my key in the ON
> position. For days and days. The result was a burned out coil and
> points which I was forced to replace before the car started again.
> This made me look hard and long at my fifty year old ignition
> switch. Although there was a contact available for AUX on the back
> of the switch, and it was certainly wired correctly, there didnâ??t
> seem to be a AUX key position. There appeared to be only three
> positions, Start, On and Off. Three clicks, not four. I was able
> to create a momentary and intermittent AUX effect by twisting the
> key hard to the left and firmly holding it there, the radio would
> come on.
>
> It eventually occurred to me that the switch was worn out, and so
> I replaced it with a new one. Voila, I now have an AUX function,
> and can now listen to the radio at leisure without burning out the
> ignition circuits. This replacement switch also has the feature
> where you have to push the key in slightly when simultaneously
> turning the key to the AUX position.
>
> Faithfully submitted,
>
> Will Daehler
>
> 63 TR4
>
> Powder Blue
>
>
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If anyone does not know what a battery disconnect is, here is a
sample:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.harborfreight.com/battery-disconnect-switch-97853.html";>https://www.harborfreight.com/battery-disconnect-switch-97853.html</a><br>
<br>
It goes on the negative post and the cable then connects to the
switch. Unscrew the know a little and you disconnect the circuit.Â
Take it all the way out and you now have a theft deterrent to the
casual car thief.<br>
<br>
My TR6 has a slow drain - about a month before the battery gets too
low without the disconnect. My GT6 is only good for less than a
week without the disconnect.<br>
<br>
Highly recommend adding one to your old cars.<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/30/2020 11:03 AM, Geo Hahn wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CANzE1bGSbDNqTsvMHj026AtzAwOMcVDUn0mJuK+SyxOiTQnFyg@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto">X3 on disconnecting the battery when not in
use. I just leave the clamp loose enough that I can pull it
off.
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">"<span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Now
considering the design of these vehicles, there is quite
an array of wiring that sits 'live' all the
time, many unfused."</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
</div>
That is why I have also installed fusible links on the brown
wire and white wire circuits.
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Without those links the 'fuse' is your wiring
loom. If you ever smell one burning... it is a scent that
stays in your memory.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Geo</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 8:48
AM <<a href="mailto:ptegler@verizon.net";
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">ptegler@verizon.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black">
<div
style="color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br>
Here Here!</div>
<div
style="color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">In
2004 I had a dozen of so people in my garage,
rebuilding 6-8 transmissions in a group tech session.
One fellow (without a tranny in hand) simply drove up
in his Triumph for the day's event. One question he
posed during the day to those in attendance, was what
might be draining his battery when the car was just
sitting for a week or so.<br>
</div>
<div
style="color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">We
all told him to just put a battery cut-off switch in
to be safe, at least until he figured out his long
standing battery issue.<br>
<br>
Fast forward to 2010? - 2012? time frame...we (our
gang) get an email telling of the demise of his car
and his exit from the hobby. </div>
<div
style="color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">As
the story goes, he heard a loud crack from the garage
(attached). Upon opening the kitchen/garage door, he
was met with thick acrid black smoke that instantly
filled the kitchen/house. both his Triumph and wife's
SUV were engulfed in flames. The smoke in the house
was bad enough that it killed his two
large amazon parrots. Needless to say building damage
as well as the loss of two cherished pets and two
motor vehicles was enough for the wife to say "you're
done! no more cars!"<br>
<br>
<br>
Now considering the design of these vehicles, there is
quite an array of wiring that sits 'live' all the
time, many unfused. A little vibration and chaffing
can easily reduce insulation thickness etc. Cracked
and brittle jackets... the list goes on.<br>
<br>
IT CAN NOT BE STATED UNEQUIVICABLY ENOUGH..... INSTALL
A BATTERY CUT-OFF.</div>
<div
style="color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br>
If for no other reason, the simplicity of safely
working on the car as needed,.... theft deterrent,
etc. <br>
If for a good reason, peace of mind, and the story
above. (yes true story above..from someone that DID
'have a clue' about what he was doing.)<br>
<br>
ptegler<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: dave <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com";
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 8:08 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON<br>
<br>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p>We have battery cutoff switches on all our
cars. Given the dicey electrics on these cars I
think itâ??s a pretty important thing to do.Â
Pretty much every time we walk away from the car
we disconnect it.</p>
<p> Â </p>
<div
id="m_5832323251184351836m_1151020120551484048yiv3162272966yqt71523">
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<div style="border-width:1pt medium
medium;border-style:solid none
none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225)
currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in
0in">
<p><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a
href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";
rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Daehler<br
clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 29, 2020
4:17 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";
rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br
clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch
AUX vs.ON</p>
</div>
</div>
<p> Â </p>
<p>OK, I have in the past inadvertently left my
key in the ON position. For days and days.Â
The result was a burned out coil and points
which I was forced to replace before the car
started again. This made me look hard and long
at my fifty year old ignition switch. Although
there was a contact available for AUX on the
back of the switch, and it was certainly wired
correctly, there didnâ??t seem to be a AUX key
position. There appeared to be only three
positions, Start, On and Off. Three clicks,
not four. I was able to create a momentary
and intermittent AUX effect by twisting the
key hard to the left and firmly holding it
there, the radio would come on.</p>
<p> Â </p>
<p>It eventually occurred to me that the switch
was worn out, and so I replaced it with a new
one. Voila, I now have an AUX function, and
can now listen to the radio at leisure without
burning out the ignition circuits. This
replacement switch also has the feature where
you have to push the key in slightly when
simultaneously turning the key to the AUX
position. </p>
<p> Â </p>
<p>Faithfully submitted,</p>
<p> Â </p>
<p>Will Daehler</p>
<p>63 TR4</p>
<p>Powder Blue</p>
</div>
<p> Â </p>
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