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Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

To: Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net>, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
From: jerry van vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 08:00:51 -0400
Cc: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Thread-topic: RE: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Art r=
ead Dave=E2=80=99s response closely. If you moved the operating lever too f=
ar which allowed the metering valve to drop the solenoid will not engage th=
e OD. You can remove the plug on the pressure port and with a magnet retrie=
ve the valve, re-adjust the operating lever (solenoid), replace the valve a=
nd cap and give it a try. And a Jay Holekamp pressure gauge is a good inves=
tment.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>JVV</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwl=
ink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;borde=
r-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fu=
se.net">Dave Connitt</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:06 PM<br=
><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com";>Randy and Valerie =
DeRuiter</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com";>Art McEw=
en</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net<=
/a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</p></div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I agree with you Randy, he ne=
eds to get a pressure gauge and see if it=E2=80=99s building pressure. If h=
e sees pressure then maybe when the lever on the solenoid was loose, he ina=
dvertently moved tha actuating lever enough to let the metering valve on th=
e opposite end drop down so now the valve isn=E2=80=99t turning the overdri=
ve on &nbsp;and off? It=E2=80=99s easy to do, ask me how I know.</span><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Dave Connitt&nbsp;<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Times New Roman",serif'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"T=
imes New Roman",serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style=3D'm=
argin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-b=
ottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"=
,serif'>On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:32 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter &lt;deruite=
rville@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><bloc=
kquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>=EF=BB=BF</span><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> Hi Art <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"T=
imes New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif=
'>I may have missed all the discussion but you really need to get the opera=
ting pressure if the overdrive to help diagnose, especially since you see t=
he solenoid working.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Jay Holekamp makes a very ni=
ce gauge for this<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href=3D"http://www.geocities=
.ws/jholekamp/">http://www.geocities.ws/jholekamp/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",=
serif'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Randy<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Ro=
man",serif'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",ser=
if'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;mar=
gin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span=
 style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>On Jul 17, =
2021, at 3:47 PM, Art McEwen &lt;artwmcewen@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-=
bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>=
=EF=BB=BF</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roma=
n",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Hi Bob, solenoid itsel=
f is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running in 2nd gear on jacks).=
 &nbsp;Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not the adjustment as I=E2=80=99ve lined it=
 up with the hole on the far side (and a little either side). &nbsp;Won=E2=
=80=99t engage when operated by hand either.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times N=
ew Roman",serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-=
top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:=
12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif=
'>On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer &lt;kinderlehrer@comcast.net&gt=
; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D'margi=
n-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0pt'>=EF=BB=BF</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Before you do anything else, do a load test on th=
e battery. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 =
amps needed to engage the OD. </span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Bob</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt=
;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style=
=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma"=
,sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"T=
ahoma",sans-serif'> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On=
 Behalf Of </b>Art McEwen<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<=
br><b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br><b>Cc:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subj=
ect:</b> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.=
0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New=
 Roman",serif'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Nothing went=
 sproing when I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak se=
aled but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;=
:(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re still=
 seated where they were.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I=E2=80=99m wondering if=
 some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got re=
located to a valve body somewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road t=
est then changing fluid again.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",seri=
f'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-b=
ottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"=
,serif'>On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:artwm=
cewen@gmail.com">artwmcewen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-se=
rif'>=EF=BB=BF</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New=
 Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mar=
gin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New R=
oman",serif'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Art<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times N=
ew Roman",serif'>On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.=
0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-rig=
ht:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-=
left:148.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-seri=
f;color:black'>Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solen=
oid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.</span><=
span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:148.8pt=
'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blac=
k'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roma=
n",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ms=
o-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:148.=
8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:b=
lack'>Dave </span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Ro=
man",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
margin-left:148.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sa=
ns-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal style=3D'margin-left:148.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;m=
argin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:148.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>Fro=
m: Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>artwmcewen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 20=
21 9:48 am<br>Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><d=
iv id=3D"m_-568949139145977063yiv2214504240"><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
 style=3D'margin-left:148.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It's weeping oil (even more than &quot;acce=
ptable&quot;), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misalig=
ning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirely w=
hile in place without something going &quot;sprong&quot;?</span><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:148.8pt'><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<=
/span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:=
148.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;col=
or:black'>Thanks,</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times =
New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'margin-left:148.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
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