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Re: [TR] Stainless Steel

To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <tjwakeman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 18:22:09 -0500
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How thick were your original bumpers, TeriAnn?  IIRC, mine were about 2mm,
so 1.5mm really isn't a lot of difference.  (Both sets are out in the
garage, so I'll confirm mine when I have a moment).

On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM TeriAnn J. Wakeman <tjwakeman@gmail=
.com>
wrote:

> On 5/14/23 12:50 PM, stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org wrote:
>
> TeriAnn,
>
> No, wrong!!  They specifically state:  "Grade 304".
>
> OK, Grade 304 stainless steel 1.5 mm thick. Makes for  very thin bumper.
> But it does have 3 layers of paint on the back side to protect the bumper=
.
>
>
>
> That is NOT plating, that is the composition of the steel to an internati=
onal forging composition
> standard that sets the amount of nickel, chromium, molybdenum and other m=
etals used in the forge.
>
> 100% is not a grade, that is supporting the statement for 304 stainless w=
hich is the grade.
>
> Nowhere in their statement do they make any claim "plated" or stainless s=
teel plated.
>
> They do state for marketing 100% stainless steel, and engineering standar=
d for 304 grade.
>
> It is an engineering thang ...
>
> Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <triumphs-bounces@autox.=
team.net> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 7:29 PM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel
>
> On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org wrote:
>
> Sorry Alex,
>
> You may want to do some fact checking.  There is no grade for "solid stai=
nless steel".
>
> I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over
> mild steel technology exists a of yet.
>
> "Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in stainless s=
teel bumpers for classic
> car. Our bumper are made of 100% stainless steel grade 304 , thickness 1.=
5mm and hand polished. The
> gloss of bumper is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper ar=
e cover by 3 painted layers
> to protect the bumper from the bad weather and chemicals elements."
>
> They plate them somehow.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">How=
 thick were your original bumpers, TeriAnn?=C2=A0 IIRC, mine were about 2mm=
, so 1.5mm really isn&#39;t a lot of difference.=C2=A0 (Both sets are out i=
n the garage, so I&#39;ll confirm mine when I have a moment).</div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, =
May 14, 2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM TeriAnn J. Wakeman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tj=
wakeman@gmail.com">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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   =20
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  <div>
    <div>On 5/14/23 12:50 PM,
      <a href=3D"mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org"; target=3D"_blank=
">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <pre>TeriAnn,

No, wrong!!  They specifically state:  &quot;Grade 304&quot;. </pre>
    </blockquote>
    OK, Grade 304 stainless steel 1.5 mm thick. Makes for=C2=A0 very thin
    bumper. But it does have 3 layers of paint on the back side to
    protect the bumper.<br>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <pre>=20

That is NOT plating, that is the composition of the steel to an internation=
al forging composition
standard that sets the amount of nickel, chromium, molybdenum and other met=
als used in the forge.

100% is not a grade, that is supporting the statement for 304 stainless whi=
ch is the grade. =20

Nowhere in their statement do they make any claim &quot;plated&quot; or sta=
inless steel plated.

They do state for marketing 100% stainless steel, and engineering standard =
for 304 grade.

It is an engineering thang ...

Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">&lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J=
. Wakeman
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 7:29 PM
To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@a=
utox.team.net</a>
Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel

On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:
</pre>
      <blockquote type=3D"cite">
        <pre>Sorry Alex,

You may want to do some fact checking.  There is no grade for &quot;solid s=
tainless steel&quot;.

I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over=20
mild steel technology exists a of yet.
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre>&quot;Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing =
in stainless steel bumpers for classic
car. Our bumper are made of 100% stainless steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5m=
m and hand polished. The
gloss of bumper is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper are =
cover by 3 painted layers
to protect the bumper from the bad weather and chemicals elements.&quot;

They plate them somehow.

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