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Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 16, Issue 83

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Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 16, Issue 83
From: Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 13:31:10 -0400
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 RE: Triumphs Digest, Vol 16, Issue 83

Congratulations on your new TR3A, Dave!

The ash tray looks original to me (or at least it looks like the only one
I've seen). According to Piggott (*Original Triumph TR2/3/3A*, p. 105), it
was

"part number 701019. Fitted under driver's side of dashboard and swung out
for use. This was optional on TR2s, 3s and early 3As.

At TS42400, the slide-out type of ashtray became available, and was
believed to be standard on North American cars."

If you have luck stretching the top and tonneau, please share the
magic with the
rest of us! Heat (leaving it out in the sun on a hot day) will help, but my
experience is that it'll shrink right back.

Dave MacKay

1960 TR3A s/n 68639L

near Toronto, Canada

>Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 16:02:35 +0000

>From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>

>Subject: [TR] new acquisition part 1 of 2

>

>Picked up a TR3 last week, TS44871 LO, from outside of San Antonio, TX

>

>Yes, that's an overdrive car, and pretty original, with the OD still on
it.  the engine is out, and looks like the head was rebuilt, then never
really installed.  Its just sitting on the studs.  And the engine does turn
easily.  No carbs.  Body in pretty good shape; was >originally light blue
and then was repainted gray (poorly).

>

>Interior is also in pretty good shape and there's just a small bit of rust
here and there.  steering wheel is not cracked anywhere!!



and later ...

>It has the optional ashtray; does anyone know if this is an original?  Was
it an Amco part?  I've enclosed a picture.

>

>And check out the Dzus wrench that came with it!!!  also has a tool roll
and the hand crank.

>

>Then - the top, hoodstick cover, and tonneau are better than to be
expected, but they've all shrunk at least an inch or two

>

>I looked it up and supposedly heat and/or steam will help.  I guess I will
find out.  anyone done that?

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<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Congratulations =
on your new TR3A</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">,</font></span><span=
 lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri"> Dave!</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">The ash tray loo=
ks original to me (or at least it looks like the only one I&#39;ve seen).</=
font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span l=
ang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">A</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><=
/span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibr=
i">ccording to Piggott (</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lan=
g=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><u><font face=3D"Calibri">Original =
Triumph TR2/3/3A</font></u></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D=
"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">, p. 105), it wa=
s</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><spa=
n lang=3D"en-ca"> </span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&quot;part</font=
></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=
=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri"> number 701019. Fitted under driver&#39;s=
 side of dashb</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca=
"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">o</font></span><span l=
ang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font=
 face=3D"Calibri">ard and swun</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><sp=
an lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">g</fon=
t></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=
=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri"> out for use. This was optional on TR2s</=
font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span l=
ang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">, 3s and early 3As.</font></span><span=
 lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> </=
span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">A</font></span><=
span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"=
><font face=3D"Calibri">t</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span la=
ng=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri"> TS42400, t=
he slide-out type of ashtray became available, and was believed to be stand=
ard on</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span=
><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">North American cars.&quot;</f=
ont></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">If you have luck=
 stretching the</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-c=
a"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">t</font></span><span=
 lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri">op and tonneau, please share the magic with</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">the rest of us!</font></span><span lang=3D"en-c=
a"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri"> Heat (leaving it out in the sun on a hot day) will help, but my exp=
erience is that</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-c=
a"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">it&#39;ll shrink rig=
ht back.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></sp=
an><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Dave</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">MacKay</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">1960 TR3A s/n 68=
639L</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">near Toronto, Ca=
nada</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 16:02:35 +0000</font></sp=
an></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">From: dave northrup &lt;</font></span><span lang=
=3D"en-ca"></span><a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";><span lang=3D"en-ca">=
</span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calib=
ri">dave@ranteer.com</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span></a><span lan=
g=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font f=
ace=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Subject: [TR] new acquisition part 1 of 2</font>=
</span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Picked up a TR3 last week, TS44871 LO, from outs=
ide of San Antonio, TX</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Yes, that&#39;s an overdrive car, and pretty ori=
ginal, with the OD still on it.=C2=A0 the engine is out, and looks like the=
 head was rebuilt, then never really installed.=C2=A0 Its just sitting on t=
he studs.=C2=A0 And the engine does turn easily.=C2=A0 No carbs.=C2=A0 Body=
 in pretty good shape; was</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span l=
ang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</fon=
t></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=
=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">originally light blue and then was repain=
ted gray (poorly).</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Interior is also in pretty good shape and there&=
#39;s just a small bit of rust here and there.=C2=A0 steering wheel is not =
cracked anywhere!!</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri"></font></span><s=
pan lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca">=
=C2=A0</span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri=
">and later ...</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-c=
a"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">It has the optional ashtray; does anyone know if=
 this is an original?=C2=A0 Was it an Amco part?=C2=A0 I&#39;ve enclosed a =
picture.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">And check out the Dzus wrench that came with it!=
!!=C2=A0 also has a tool roll and the hand crank.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Then - the top, hoodstick cover, and tonneau are=
 better than to be expected, but they&#39;ve all shrunk at least an inch or=
 two</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">I looked it up and supposedly heat and/or steam =
will help.=C2=A0 I guess I will find out.=C2=A0 anyone done that?</font></s=
pan></p>

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