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Got to disagree=E2=80=A6. I=E2=80=99ve got about 10 years of real world dri=
ving with a GPS speedo=E2=80=A6. Can anyone top that? And I=E2=80=99ve neve=
r had it cut out for any reason that was noticeable=E2=80=A6.. and even if =
it did due to trees or hills or valleys=E2=80=A6. So what=E2=80=A6 would it=
really affect how I was driving or how you drive? Am I suddenly a crazy dr=
iver because my speedo doesn=E2=80=99t work?? Like all of you I check my ga=
uges regularly,,, but only the small gauges=E2=80=A6. Oil pressure, water t=
emp, Voltage=E2=80=A6 even gas=E2=80=A6. But I don=E2=80=99t check the spee=
do or tach that often=E2=80=A6.. I settle in to a speed based on traffic AN=
D sound=E2=80=A6. And along the road I go. =E2=80=A6 actually a pretty sill=
y discussion unless someone with a GPS speedo decides to jump in and prove =
me wrong=E2=80=A6. If you don=E2=80=99t have one, don=E2=80=99t bother to r=
espond as you=E2=80=99re dealing with speculation=E2=80=A6Just sayin=E2=80=
=99
Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
From: David Friedlander
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 8:17 PM
To: Bob Danielson
Cc: TeriAnn J. Wakeman; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
Perhaps not, Bob. But the tall trees bordering a narrow road scenario is fa=
r more common. TerriAnn makes a valid point..
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:24 PM Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.or=
g> wrote:
I=E2=80=99ve heard the GPS tunnel argument before and I have to chuckle eve=
ry time=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 How often do you drive through a tunnel? I can sa=
fely say the TR6 has never been in a tunnel in my=C2=A0 26 years of ownersh=
ip=E2=80=A6..oops=E2=80=A6 I take that back=E2=80=A6 it has gone though the=
tunnel in New Haven that=E2=80=99s about =C2=BD mile and we survived. . Wh=
y do you need the speedo in a tunnel? You usually can only go as fast as th=
e guy in front of you and tunnel speeds typically drop about 10 mph as soon=
as folks get in one. I=E2=80=99m surprised you don=E2=80=99t know your spe=
ed by looking at your tach. If you do go through a tunnel, how long is it? =
2 or 3 miles perhaps. You can=E2=80=99t live without your speedo for 3 mile=
s? And again I say=E2=80=A6 look at your tach. Let=E2=80=99s face it, the t=
unnel argument is weak at best. =C2=A0
=C2=A0
Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
=C2=A0
From: TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 12:52 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
=C2=A0
On 6/28/23 4:47 AM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:
I have toyed wit the idea of a GPS conversion =E2=80=93 as you say, they ar=
e very accurate =E2=80=93 but I didn=E2=80=99t like the idea of the speedo =
dropping to zero if I drove through a tunnel.
I have a VDO GPS speedometer in my 1960 Land Rover. How well it works depen=
ds on how much of the sky the sender can see. And yes, a road lined by tall=
trees with narrows the sensor's view of the sky keeps it from working unle=
ss there is a satellite in the open space. I didn't want to drill a hole in=
my roof or compromise door/windscreen seals so mounted mine on the windscr=
een in front of the rear view mirror. So a satellite needs to be in front o=
f me for the GPS to work. How well a GPS speedo works is determined by how =
much sky it can see. My mounting it inside on the windscreen I severely lim=
ited what my sensor can see.
On the other hand, the GPS has allowed me to determine speed by watching th=
e tach, so when my GPS cannot see a sat, I look at the tach to determine my=
speed.
TeriAnn
=C2=A0
Your gauges look great =E2=80=93 I have just ordered a set of magnolia gaug=
es with leds from West Valley.
=C2=A0
Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, MI
=C2=A0
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Danielson
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:27 PM
To: jhmdds@aol.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
=C2=A0
One of the projects I never documented on my web site was the conversion of=
my tach to electronic and my speedo to GPS back in 2013. I sent both stock=
gauges to Morris at West Valley and he not only converted them but he had =
his =E2=80=9Cartist=E2=80=9D repaint the faces Magnolia.=C2=A0 The speedo n=
ow has GPS innards, a power lead and an antenna (hidden under the ashtray).=
I=E2=80=99ve tracked the speed against both my Garmin GPS and Waze and it=
=E2=80=99s spot on perfect. The beauty of a GPS speedo is there=E2=80=99s n=
o need for a tranny cable and it doesn=E2=80=99t care about the rear end ra=
tio or your tire size=E2=80=A6.. it just tracks you in real time.
=C2=A0
Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
=C2=A0
From: jhmdds@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 10:37 AM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Speedo Conversion
=C2=A0
"
Hi All,
=C2=A0
I'm looking for recommendations for converting the speedometer on my '75 TR=
6 with the Toyota 5 speed transmission to an electronic style.=C2=A0 Altern=
atively I'm looking for a 90 degree drive angle connector from the transmis=
sion to the speedo cable. =C2=A0
=C2=A0
Thanks for the help,
=C2=A0
James Maddox
")
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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Got t=
o disagree=E2=80=A6. I=E2=80=99ve got about 10 years of real world driving =
with a GPS speedo=E2=80=A6. Can anyone top that? And I=E2=80=99ve never had=
it cut out for any reason that was noticeable=E2=80=A6.. and even if it di=
d due to trees or hills or valleys=E2=80=A6. So what=E2=80=A6 would it real=
ly affect how I was driving or how you drive? Am I suddenly a crazy driver =
because my speedo doesn=E2=80=99t work?? Like all of you I check my gauges =
regularly,,, but only the small gauges=E2=80=A6. Oil pressure, water temp, =
Voltage=E2=80=A6 even gas=E2=80=A6. But I don=E2=80=99t check the speedo or=
tach that often=E2=80=A6.. I settle in to a speed based on traffic AND sou=
nd=E2=80=A6. And along the road I go. =E2=80=A6 actually a pretty silly dis=
cussion unless someone with a GPS speedo decides to jump in and prove me wr=
ong=E2=80=A6. If you don=E2=80=99t have one, don=E2=80=99t bother to respon=
d as you=E2=80=99re dealing with speculation=E2=80=A6Just sayin=E2=80=99</p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Daniels=
on<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br>http://tr6.da=
nielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </=
o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:so=
lid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"=
>David Friedlander</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, June 28, 2023 8:17 PM<br>=
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:75TR6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org";>Bob Danielson</=
a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com";>TeriAnn J. Wakeman<=
/a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>=
<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion</p></div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Perhaps not, Bob. But the =
tall trees bordering a narrow road scenario is far more common. TerriAnn ma=
kes a valid point..</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:24 PM Bob Daniels=
on <<a href=3D"mailto:75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org";>75tr6@tr6.danielson=
family.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-=
left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin=
-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto=
;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I=E2=80=99ve heard the GPS tunnel argument bef=
ore and I have to chuckle every time=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 How often do you dri=
ve through a tunnel? I can safely say the TR6 has never been in a tunnel in=
my 26 years of ownership=E2=80=A6..oops=E2=80=A6 I take that back=E2=
=80=A6 it has gone though the tunnel in New Haven that=E2=80=99s about =C2=
=BD mile and we survived. . Why do you need the speedo in a tunnel? You usu=
ally can only go as fast as the guy in front of you and tunnel speeds typic=
ally drop about 10 mph as soon as folks get in one. I=E2=80=99m surprised y=
ou don=E2=80=99t know your speed by looking at your tach. If you do go thro=
ugh a tunnel, how long is it? 2 or 3 miles perhaps. You can=E2=80=99t live =
without your speedo for 3 miles? And again I say=E2=80=A6 look at your tach=
. Let=E2=80=99s face it, the tunnel argument is weak at best. </p></d=
iv></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margi=
n-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bob Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Pa=
nels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br><a href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfam=
ily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://tr6.danielsonfamily.o=
rg/PanelBootSales1.htm</a></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-=
alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div style=3D'border:none;bo=
rder-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: </b=
><a href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">TeriAnn J. Wakema=
n</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, June 28, 2023 12:52 PM<br><b>To: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team=
.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion</p></div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbs=
p;</p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin=
-bottom-alt:auto'>On 6/28/23 4:47 AM, auprichard <a href=3D"http://uprichar=
d.net" target=3D"_blank">uprichard.net</a> wrote:</p></div><blockquote styl=
e=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ms=
o-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have toyed wit the idea=
of a GPS conversion =E2=80=93 as you say, they are very accurate =E2=80=93=
but I didn=E2=80=99t like the idea of the speedo dropping to zero if I dro=
ve through a tunnel.</p></blockquote><p>I have a VDO GPS speedometer in my =
1960 Land Rover. How well it works depends on how much of the sky the sende=
r can see. And yes, a road lined by tall trees with narrows the sensor's vi=
ew of the sky keeps it from working unless there is a satellite in the open=
space. I didn't want to drill a hole in my roof or compromise door/windscr=
een seals so mounted mine on the windscreen in front of the rear view mirro=
r. So a satellite needs to be in front of me for the GPS to work. How well =
a GPS speedo works is determined by how much sky it can see. My mounting it=
inside on the windscreen I severely limited what my sensor can see.</p><p>=
On the other hand, the GPS has allowed me to determine speed by watching th=
e tach, so when my GPS cannot see a sat, I look at the tach to determine my=
speed.</p><p>TeriAnn</p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-botto=
m:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Your gauges look great =E2=80=93 I have ju=
st ordered a set of magnolia gauges with leds from West Valley.</p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&=
nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt:auto'>Andrew Uprichard</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margi=
n-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jackson, MI</p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p>=
<div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt=
0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-mar=
gin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> Triumphs <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank"><triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>=
;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Danielson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 27, 2=
023 8:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:jhmdds@aol.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">jhmdds@aol.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Speedo Con=
version</p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:aut=
o;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-m=
argin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>One of the projects I never =
documented on my web site was the conversion of my tach to electronic and m=
y speedo to GPS back in 2013. I sent both stock gauges to Morris at West Va=
lley and he not only converted them but he had his =E2=80=9Cartist=E2=80=9D=
repaint the faces Magnolia. The speedo now has GPS innards, a power =
lead and an antenna (hidden under the ashtray). I=E2=80=99ve tracked the sp=
eed against both my Garmin GPS and Waze and it=E2=80=99s spot on perfect. T=
he beauty of a GPS speedo is there=E2=80=99s no need for a tranny cable and=
it doesn=E2=80=99t care about the rear end ratio or your tire size=E2=80=
=A6.. it just tracks you in real time.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso=
-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bob Danie=
lson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br><a href=3D"=
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm"; target=3D"_blank">http:=
//tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</a></p><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0=
in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:jhmdds@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>jhmdds@aol.com</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 27, 2023 10:37 AM<br><b>T=
o: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumph=
s@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] Speedo Conversion</p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:au=
to'> </p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-mar=
gin-bottom-alt:auto'>"</p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-=
margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi All,</p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto=
'> </p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:aut=
o;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I'm looking for recommendations for convertin=
g the speedometer on my '75 TR6 with the Toyota 5 speed transmission to an =
electronic style. Alternatively I'm looking for a 90 degree drive ang=
le connector from the transmission to the speedo cable. </p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-=
alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks for the help,</p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:au=
to'> </p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>James Maddox</p></div></div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>")<=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
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