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Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 running on 2
From: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 16:13:38 -0500
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Re-reading this, number 6 seems to cover the "is it getting gas" issue.  
Still, maybe a squirt of starter fluid in the front carb to see if it 
starts running on the front cylinders could help diagnose.  Could be 
float stuck open flooding the front cylinders - I'd think you'd notice 
dripping gas but maybe not.  It's possible to have spark but it's "weak" 
so will spark in ambient pressure (plug laying on the valve cover) but 
not under pressure. Then points / condensor / coil is the path.  Seems 
unlikely that is would do that for only two cylinders though.  Front two 
cylinders affected sound like something going on with front carb.

- Tony

On 3/13/2026 3:30 PM, Tony Drews wrote:
>
> Can you try squirting fuel into the carb for the cylinders which 
> aren't firing?  Sometimes the connection between the float bowl and 
> the jet gets clogged.  Could maybe pull the carb top and piston and 
> blow air backwards through that.
>
> My dad had an issue where a little piece of the rubber line from the 
> float bowl to the jet hung down in the inner hole and acted like a 
> one-way valve.  Had him scratching his head for a while on that one.
>
> - Tony
>
> On 3/13/2026 10:47 AM, Notakitcar wrote:
>>
>> *Hello group, got a head scratcher here.*
>>
>> *Scenario:*
>>
>> *Last Saturday drove to cars & coffee, ran great until I was about ½ 
>> way home.  Started cutting out bad and l limped home on 2 cylinders.*
>>
>>  1. *Checked compression 170-175 across all 4*
>>  2. *Pulled each plug wire and determined the front two were not running*
>>  3. *Laid a plug along side the engine and verified there is spark*
>>  4. *Pulled the float bowl top and verified there is fuel, drained it
>>     dry, blew air, let it refill.*
>>  5. *Turned the motor and verified the fuel is flowing into the bowl*
>>  6. *Covered the intake and fuel splashes back on my hand a higher RPM*
>>  7. *Replace the front two plugs, gapped at .034*
>>  8. *Checked valves, all are moving properly and adjusted*
>>  9. *Verified that the butterfly is opening*
>> 10. *½ tank of gas.*
>>
>> **
>>
>> *Any other suggestions greatly appreciated before I go out back and 
>> shoot myself in the head?*
>>
>> **
>>
>> *Many thanks,*
>>
>> *Bill B*
>>
>> *TS30766L*
>>
>> **
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    <p>Re-reading this, number 6 seems to cover the "is it getting gas"
      issue.  Still, maybe a squirt of starter fluid in the front carb
      to see if it starts running on the front cylinders could help
      diagnose.  Could be float stuck open flooding the front cylinders
      - I'd think you'd notice dripping gas but maybe not.  It's
      possible to have spark but it's "weak" so will spark in ambient
      pressure (plug laying on the valve cover) but not under pressure. 
      Then points / condensor / coil is the path.  Seems unlikely that
      is would do that for only two cylinders though.  Front two
      cylinders affected sound like something going on with front carb.</p>
    <p>- Tony</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/13/2026 3:30 PM, Tony Drews wrote:<br>
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      <p>Can you try squirting fuel into the carb for the cylinders
        which aren't firing?  Sometimes the connection between the float
        bowl and the jet gets clogged.  Could maybe pull the carb top
        and piston and blow air backwards through that.</p>
      <p>My dad had an issue where a little piece of the rubber line
        from the float bowl to the jet hung down in the inner hole and
        acted like a one-way valve.  Had him scratching his head for a
        while on that one.</p>
      <p>- Tony</p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/13/2026 10:47 AM, Notakitcar
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                    group, got a head scratcher here.</span></b><span
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Scenario:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Last
                Saturday drove to cars &amp; coffee, ran great until I
                was about ½ way home.  Started cutting out bad and l
                limped home on 2 cylinders.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Checked
                  compression 170-175 across all 4<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
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              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Pulled
                  each plug wire and determined the front two were not
                  running<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
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              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Laid a
                  plug along side the engine and verified there is 
spark<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
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              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Pulled
                  the float bowl top and verified there is fuel, drained
                  it dry, blew air, let it refill.<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
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              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Turned
                  the motor and verified the fuel is flowing into the
                  bowl<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
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              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Covered
                  the intake and fuel splashes back on my hand a higher
                  RPM<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
            <li class="MsoListParagraph"
              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Replace
                  the front two plugs, gapped at .034<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
            <li class="MsoListParagraph"
              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Checked
                  valves, all are moving properly and 
adjusted<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
            <li class="MsoListParagraph"
              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Verified
                  that the butterfly is opening<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
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              style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">½ tank of
                  gas.<o:p></o:p></span></b></li>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Any other
                suggestions greatly appreciated before I go out back and
                shoot myself in the head?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Many
                thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cambria&quot;,serif">Bill 
B<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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