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Re: Breaker, Braker...

To: Haynes Mark <mhaynes@ball.com>
Subject: Re: Breaker, Braker...
From: Jack W Drews <vinttr4@geneseo.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:31:20 -0500
Haynes Mark wrote:
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Malaboge@aol.com [SMTP:Malaboge@aol.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 4:02 PM
> > To:   vintage-race@autox.team.net; fot@autox.team.net
> > Subject:      Breaker, Braker...
> >
> > Nick
> > OK, guys it's been a while and I know many things have changed, but what
> > is
> > the hot lick in brakes these days? Should I find some Ferodo DS11 pads
> > (what
> > I used to run in the olden daze) or should I look toward some of the newer
> >
> > carbon types? DS11 has always worked for me, but if some of the newer
> > stuff
> > is better it isn't too late to learn a new trick.
> >
> > Does the carbon stuff leave dust everywhere?
>         [Haynes, Mark]  Yes, the carbon brakes do leave dust, but so does
> everything else I've used.
> >  Do I need to worry more about
> > cooling? Less?
>         [Haynes, Mark]  This depends on the compound you use. Talk to a rep
> to get the right temperature pads.
> > Weird bedding techniques? (No, with the brake pads you
> > pervert...)
>         [Haynes, Mark]  none I'm aware of, in fact the ones we use (Hawk
> blue compound) on our Spitfire come pre-burnished, and basically need
> nothing special in the way  of break in. The Hawk pads come in 3 or 4
> different compounds, I talked to the rep (got his # from Pegasus Racing) and
> got a full explanation of temps, and compounds- basically the Blue compound
> is great for road racing (up to 1200F) the black is good for up to about
> 1500F, and below these is an autocross/street compound (I don't remember the
> compound's designation) I hope this helps.
> 
>         Mark Haynes
>         '65 Spitfire RMVR #162
> 
> > These will be for the Duke of Oil, a '65 TR4A
> >
> > lemme no your tales of "whoa"...
> >        Nick in Nor Cal

I believe that the Ferodo DS-11 pads are no longer available new, and
Joe Alexander has acquired rights to all old pads.

We have been using the Hawk Blue compound. They work just fine but must
be warm so I warm them up on each pace lap. They are pretty aggressive
and do wear the rotors. They also shed a compound / metal dust that, if
left on the wheels after it rains, is nearly impossible to remove.

Because of the above disadvantages, we are going to try the Carbon
Kevlar linings for both front and rear that are supplied by Ted
Schumacher (TSI Automotive) at the next change.

By the way, I don't find front pads listed in anybody's catalogs for
TR4's. They are nearly identical to Datsun 240Z's, however, which are
listed. We always have to grind just a little bit off the ends of the
pads so they slide in the calipers properly.
-- 
uncle jack
61 TR4 Racer  -- fast car
71 TR6 Street Car  -- fun car



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