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61. Runoffs 1.1 (score: 1): Author: rjohnson@friendlynet.com; Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:56:04 -0500; Sorry - I meant T2. . . . . . R; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00411.html (6,461 bytes)
62. Why? (score: 1): Author: rjohnson@friendlynet.com; Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:41:06 -0500; None of MY business, but this is beyond incredible. Hialeah to Atlanta is 12 hours - 667 miles. This is like complaining about an event in Toledo, OH. . . . . . but that is closer to Atlanta, Ben: 65; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00450.html (7,946 bytes)
63. Move the Nationals - Facts (score: 1): Author: rjohnson@friendlynet.com; Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:24:22 -0500; Sunrise Topeka September 10 - 0600 October 15 - 0633 Sunset Topeka September 10 - 1838 October 15 - 1744 So 87 minutes less daylight. . . . . . Average daytime high Topeka September - 82 October - 71; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00681.html (7,003 bytes)
64. Fw: ?!?What does this mean?!?!? (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:28:53 -0400; I don't know for sure, but if I were making the decision the tire rule would have to be a big consideration. . . . . Roger 2 -- Original Message --; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00892.html (8,545 bytes)
65. STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:58:43 -0400; If you believe that the "success" of STS is due to the incredible foresight of SCCA to tap into this burgeoning market of car enthusiasts who happen to drive the cars we have classed, you might as we; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00948.html (8,672 bytes)
66. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:50:12 -0400; And you will identify these "ringer" tires how? Please remember that your task will be to find, identify & get on an exclusion list these tires between the time the Tire Company truck arrives at Tope; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00964.html (10,308 bytes)
67. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:54:09 -0400; Well, son - I guess you had to have been there when EXACTLY those things you describe were happening. And still do. And can again. At the risk of being repetitive: either the tire rules work, or they; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00968.html (10,587 bytes)
68. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:07:08 -0400; And the rule-book changes come 12-24 months AFTER the fact. After the tires have been run. After the win ads have run. And after the damage is done. R2; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00971.html (8,876 bytes)
69. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:41:19 -0400; It HAS happened - repeatedly. Sometimes for "a single class". Name the manufacturer, and I will tell you what they have done with DOT tires - even as recently as September 2000. In fact I can come up; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00979.html (9,730 bytes)
70. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:33:20 -0400; 1.) Some of the activity I reference took place before the inclusion of 13.3. B & D. in the rulebook. Some well after. 2.) 13.3.D does not apply to STS. And even if it did, YOU prove that the tire si; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00995.html (10,929 bytes)
71. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:09:59 -0400; I really don't like to repeat myself, and dislike it when others messages are simply repetitions of what has been said before: This HAS happened in the past. Ask any National autocrosser that has bee; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00998.html (12,626 bytes)
72. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:59:41 -0400; How in the world does this prohibit (or inhibit) a manufacturer from making some that aren't quite "140 treadwear"?? R2; /html/autox/2000-10/msg00999.html (8,917 bytes)
73. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:41:07 -0400; Sigh. How does one argue with this? Any car enthsiast, that picks up & reads any of the major, high circulation buff books knows about SCCA. For most mildly interested automobile competition fans, th; /html/autox/2000-10/msg01008.html (15,444 bytes)
74. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:34:17 -0400; The gains to be had from bringing in a 'ringer' tire to compete against the existing S/SP rubber are fairly small - diminishing returns, and all that. To the marketing manager at ABC tire company, th; /html/autox/2000-10/msg01009.html (10,570 bytes)
75. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:23:37 -0400; Then you need to start those discussions. R "I; /html/autox/2000-10/msg01010.html (10,152 bytes)
76. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:35:13 -0400; Uhhhhh - no. That is the job of the SEB. (Howard just creates stuff like SM <ggg>) R have waste We'll "I about; /html/autox/2000-10/msg01011.html (10,701 bytes)
77. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:15:40 -0400; Nope - the original design of the class, per the SEB members at the time, was to direct an effort to the types of vehicles and typical prep work done by the 'import' crowd - and of course to the folk; /html/autox/2000-10/msg01023.html (12,347 bytes)
78. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:54:03 -0400; As Dennis Grant might clearly tell you Loren, I have NO negativism about any class - unless the participation numbers show it to be unworthy of inclusion as a National class. Some of my best friends; /html/autox/2000-10/msg01028.html (11,562 bytes)
79. Re: STS Tire Rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:29:50 -0400; VERY well said, DG. You may have some smidgen of redeeming social value yet. R2 BEAT because for quo"; /html/autox/2000-10/msg01074.html (14,031 bytes)
80. Final Post - STS Tire rules (score: 1): Author: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:58:46 -0400; Some of you need to go back and read the post from Mark Bradakis (also Jean Kinser) as to what this forum used to be vs. what it is now. As they point out, this group was populated by a number of pa; /html/autox/2000-10/msg01077.html (10,930 bytes)

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