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1. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: "Jerry Mouton" <jerry@moutons.org>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:28:44 -0800; The "Forum" is ba-autox, an email list that locals use to discuss things from autocross courses to SUV and cellphone use. There is help signing onto this list in the autocross links page. http://www; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00032.html (11,310 bytes)
2. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Barry Chafin <bchafin@attglobal.net>; Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 10:58:03 -0800; Jerry -- Thanks for helping Dan out with questions about yesterday's course / implementation, your points are on target. As an Event Chair I'd love to of gotten another 15 seconds out of the Oakland; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00040.html (14,502 bytes)
3. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Jason Liao <jhliao@wildfyre.com>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:43:15 -0500 (EST); Actually the number of cars on course simultaneously has very little to do with how many cars can get through the event (obviously there are other factors such as how many cars get re-runs after a re; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00046.html (8,141 bytes)
4. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:44:22 -0800 (PST); Of course I wasn't there, but if you can start cars every 20-25 seconds, the length of course doesn't make any difference to total time. Loops often *impede* you from hitting that range, because they; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00048.html (8,844 bytes)
5. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Giles Douglas <giles@vy.com>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:19:39 -0800 (PST); Yes, but the interval between car starts is dependent on the number of cars you can have on course at one time. If I can only have one on a 45 second course, its 45 seconds. If I can have 2, its 22.5; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00053.html (9,051 bytes)
6. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:50:24 -0800 (PST); No, it isn't. The clocks can handle up to eight cars at once. If you're talking about safely starting cars due to course design issues (cars pointed at each other, etc.), that's true, but it has noth; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00054.html (8,473 bytes)
7. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: "John J. Stimson-III" <john@harlie.idsfa.net>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:08:49 -0800; I think Jason's point was that how quickly the event finishes is directly related to the interval between cars, and not on the course length or the number of cars on course. Barry's comment about add; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00055.html (10,361 bytes)
8. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Giles Douglas <giles@vy.com>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:09:11 -0800 (PST); Thats not what I was saying. The total time it takes to run the event depends on the start time between cars. The start time between cars depends on the overlap of the course (ie the number of cars o; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00056.html (10,260 bytes)
9. RE: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: "Thana, Peter {High~Palo Alto}" <PETER.THANA@ROCHE.COM>; Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 13:07:42 -0800; I'd also like to thank Barry and Ed for running an excellent event. To get so many cars thru with barely a hitch can only result from the tireless efforts of the event chairs throughout the day. I ha; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00058.html (16,315 bytes)
10. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Giles Douglas <giles@vy.com>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:13:18 -0800 (PST); Yes! Giles; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00060.html (8,443 bytes)
11. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: "Josh Sirota" <josh@sirota.org>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:22:20 -0800; It's the other way around. The number of cars on course is a function of the start interval and the length of the course. The start interval is a function only of safety margin between cars, and the; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00062.html (10,271 bytes)
12. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Giles Douglas <giles@vy.com>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:44:15 -0800 (PST); But it still depends on it. The overlap just depends on other things. To say that the number of cars you can run in one day is not dependent on the number of cars on course is wrong. The variable "nu; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00065.html (11,955 bytes)
13. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Barry Chafin <bchafin@attglobal.net>; Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 13:48:52 -0800; Thanks for the feedback ,Jason, I feel better about course design. Best I remember, we kept the "staging queue" pretty much full all day, except for the period of the afternoon course walk. We enjoye; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00067.html (9,317 bytes)
14. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Jim Ochi <jim_ochi@yahoo.com>; Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 14:06:57 -0800; This is pretty much true. However, you have to add in downtime, like the midday course walkthrough, driver's meeting, worker changeovers, and any event stoppages (red flags, course cleanup after an e; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00071.html (11,772 bytes)
15. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:30:45 -0800 (PST); Yes. No. Those two are not related in any practical way. It is dependent ONLY on the ability to overlap safely. If you had a course that allowed four cars, with the first five seconds from finishing; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00075.html (10,860 bytes)
16. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Barry Chafin <bchafin@attglobal.net>; Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 14:41:23 -0800; Early in the morning, when I took a few measurement we were starting cars @ about 25 second intervals with two cars on course simultaneously most of the time. I didn't think to make sure that each st; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00079.html (9,632 bytes)
17. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: "John J. Stimson-III" <john@harlie.idsfa.net>; Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:21:02 -0800; Except that time between starts is both what determines the pace of the event *and* the thing that you have direct control over. You get more cars on course by shortening the start interval, not the; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00082.html (9,479 bytes)
18. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: "John F. Kelly Jr." <76067.1750@compuserve.com>; Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 00:48:11 -0500; Message text written by "John J. Stimson-III" " When I ran an event in Indy region, they had a 45-second course with a crossover about 10 seconds into the course, and 8 seconds from the finish. They; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00111.html (8,502 bytes)
19. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: Smokerbros@aol.com; Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 01:10:39 EST; I was going to mention this to Tony. The loop used at Round 2 was about max size to insure 20-25 sec overlaps. If your loop is too large, you're either stuck with 25+ sec. overlaps, or you have to ch; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00113.html (8,201 bytes)
20. Re: Forum/ Sunday's course (score: 1): Author: "John F. Kelly Jr." <76067.1750@compuserve.com>; Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:45:07 -0500; Message text written by "Jerry Mouton" "The general feeling on this is if you don't like the courses, then chair an event and show us how it can be done." -- End Original Message -- While I understan; /html/ba-autox/2002-03/msg00276.html (8,500 bytes)

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