It's not about labelling, it's about participation. I attached no aspersions to "convenience" entrants, Good thing, because I am in the group, too. But if you don't compete seriously in a class, the
Sorry, I can see how you misunderstood. I meant that no SM driver is in serious competition for the top STi trophy, at least last year. Robin would have done almost as well trophy-wise in SM open cl
I may as well chime in, although I think everyone else has made great points already. I'll start with what I've come to really appreciate about the ST class (apologies if this comes through twice, I'
I would say that the large, unknown differences in street tires combined with a PAX factor makes Street Tire class competition even less meaningful. I'll buy the low cost convenience of Street Tire,
Several people have already shown that the Street Tire class was well subscribed this year for every regular event (not the national tour, which was an irregular event), except the one on Easter Sund
(My apologies if this is a re-post; it appears responses I sent from my Gmail account are not getting through to the list.) I must say I'm quite disappointed at the Street Tire changes. I enjoyed run
Rigtht. This place is not a Republic, where the SC members represent the interests of their constituents. It's a Democracy, where you go and vote your point of view. If you want things to be a certa
The STi run group varied from 35 cars more than the smallest run group (in Ch Round 1) to 11 fewer than the largest run group in Ch Round 6). It was flagged as much larger or much smller than averag
Round 6 had only 7 Sti entrants, while the average run group size was 20, so the other run groups were .not so bad... Round 1 had 54 STi entrants, while the average run group size was 34. STi only h
We are going to have to agree to disagree. I think to kill one of the most popular classes, in its current form, in the name of run group leveling is dumb. Is winter over yet so we can get be back to
Yep, I guess we will... I think "popular" classes are those that are contested deeply, not those that everyone enters who wants to run in the morning or who slept late that day. Of all the trophy qu
Author: "John J. Stimson-III" <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:29:24 -0800
That was the event on Easter Sunday. There were 16 competitors in the ST/GS/HS run group. There were only 11 in the ASP/CSP/FSP group that came next! That's hardly a clear demonstration that Street T
In Round 6, STi did not have enough to constitute a run group, only by adding HS and GS was it big enough. Yet in other events it alone was larger than the average run groups. As I pointed out, that
Should we be including BOONDOGGLE in any statistical analysis? Isn't that event like a circus, a concert, and Duel at Deanza all rolled into one big party that also just happens to have an autox runn
Big thanks to Matthew Rehrer if this goes through. Perhaps we can attack the problem itself. The problem seems to be that ST varies too much in size to intelligently place it in a rungroup. I underst
Hi Pat, Excellent point, that's what I get for firing off an email without stopping to think :-) Rex already suggested Stock and Everyone Else (STEE), which is kind of where I was headed with it. May
How about the other scenario. People decide that going to Nationals and Tours is not a goal and stop running on race tires. Switch to the ST class and the race tire class is undersubscribed. Bryan Hi
Who knows? That's what it looks like when you look at the Detroit Region's results. :) More Street Tire than R tire entries, generally speaking, and Detroit is a heck of a lot closer to Topeka than w
New solution to all our problems!! "Psst! Over here! Here, kid, the first set of R compounds are free..." Slightly more seriously, if we can't find another way around the variability of the street ti