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121. RE: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 01:02:08 -0500; I didn't say there weren't A FEW. (The best examples I know of are Jack Costella's.) But MOST of the very high speed rigs are also very high bucks rigs, already (whether they have TC, or not). Why w; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00069.html (9,778 bytes)
122. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Flowbench@aol.com; Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 14:49:57 EDT; << Why would you think I wouldn't believe you? I believed the guy who said he had $3/4 million (!!!) in his engine-- well, I didn't immediately assume that he was lying, anyway. >> LOL good come back; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00073.html (8,631 bytes)
123. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: John Goodman <ggl205@yahoo.com>; Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT); Bill, the only problem I see here is if your MSD is communicating with data acquisition from wheel RPM sensors. If the driver is in manual control of the retard feature, what's the harm? ____________; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00075.html (8,749 bytes)
124. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Ed Van Scoy <ed@vetteracing.com>; Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:20:41 -0700; Wouldn't a "spectator" be able to hear it? I have heard it in road-couse cars. I know hearing ain't "catchin'" but but if suspicion was great, & SCTA wanted to make an example out of you, I suspect; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00081.html (8,698 bytes)
125. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <saltracer@servusa.com>; Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 07:49:20 -0400; Well NASCAR has been on top of the supposed "hear it" line of thinking and invested heavily in acoustical (if that's the word) equipment to detect TC. So far they haven't caught a singe one. Will SCT; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00082.html (8,720 bytes)
126. RE: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 10:37:16 -0500; I've heard people say that they have "heard" TC at El Mirage, also. Maybe so. What does TC sound like? Working in CART, I've heard some strange undulating sounds as some cars launch out of their pit; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00085.html (9,461 bytes)
127. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:54:41 -0400; You don't need to hook to wheel speeds. An accelerometer and a slew rate rev limiter will do the job just fine.. Or rather than rev limit you pull timing out as well. The ones you can hear use rev li; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00093.html (8,428 bytes)
128. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 06:00:28 -0400; That is the pit lane speed limiter..usually set just under the max speed allowed in the pit area. Driver leaves with foot to the floor and the switch on.turn off switch at the end of the pit road.. I; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00094.html (8,761 bytes)
129. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 06:02:16 -0400; Hey I think everyone ought to donate 50% of the prize money to buy it LOL.. /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Arc; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00095.html (8,111 bytes)
130. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:01:19 -0400; and if they shred the car and find nothing?? What then? Sounds like a pretty dangerous approach to me. Dave /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.t; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00099.html (8,081 bytes)
131. RE: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 22:14:05 -0500; what about the ones that sound like a jackhammer as they leave the pits (incl. Newman-Haas, as I recall)? (I'm thinking that might have some connection with the totally mangled clutch assembelies I; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00103.html (9,548 bytes)
132. RE: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:43:15 -0500; Our old M8C McLaren Can-Am car used a timing retard rev limiter on its Chevy ZL-1 engine. When the rev limit was reached, the timing was retarded enough to suddenly lose about 200BHP. It didn't over; /html/land-speed/2003-08/msg00112.html (8,571 bytes)
133. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: "Waldron, James" <James.Waldron@CWUSA.COM>; Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:34:23 -0400; I am absolutely in favor of a friendly chat over a cold beer and intend this in that spirit. I'm all for rules and will abide by them. "every year Traction Control is discussed and every year it's di; /html/land-speed/2002-07/msg00002.html (8,620 bytes)
134. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: "Dave Seely" <dseely@sginet.com>; Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:08:40 -0600; Most, if not all of the rules are a result of an accident or incident, or just experience. I would think it would be useful to know the history of a rule so that we can remain within the spirit of it; /html/land-speed/2002-07/msg00004.html (10,010 bytes)
135. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:34:33 EDT; Dave Its probably to keep our hobby low tech and affordable. Personally, I wish all my competitors had it! Jack /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://w; /html/land-speed/2002-07/msg00005.html (7,020 bytes)
136. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: "DrMayf" <drmayf@teknett.com>; Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:57:48 -0700; Yep, I agree with Jack....traction control may equal more stability, but will surely also equal less speed.... /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://ww; /html/land-speed/2002-07/msg00015.html (7,461 bytes)
137. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Joe Amo <jkamo@rap.midco.net>; Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 20:06:53 -0600; You gotta be kidding me!!! traction control..(ie less wheel spin) = less speed????????????? I guess the joke is on me that I am too stupid to understand that logic....... geez I am almost proud to no; /html/land-speed/2002-07/msg00036.html (7,812 bytes)
138. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Joe Amo <jkamo@rap.midco.net>; Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 20:34:26 -0600; and another thing............ "more stability" and "less speed"????????????????????????? are these arguements for keeping it banned???????????????? Joe (hoping for some more NATURAL traction control; /html/land-speed/2002-07/msg00038.html (7,729 bytes)
139. Traction Control (score: 1): Author: "landspeedracer" <landspeedracer@msn.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:18:50 -0400; Traction Control being used in NASCAR? Some engine builders and car owners are becoming increasingly concerned about what they insist is the growing use of illegal traction control devices on Winston; /html/land-speed/2002-06/msg00293.html (9,181 bytes)
140. Re: Traction Control (score: 1): Author: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 05:24:36 -0400; F1 can't police it and nascar can't so it ought to be easy to police right? My favorite one is the deal where it is activated by a cell phone from the pit area..LOL Um excuse me while I call the car; /html/land-speed/2002-06/msg00294.html (8,108 bytes)

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