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21. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>; Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:46:11 -0800; I agree that meeting noise restrictions at Laguna Seca is not very hard. I suspect it's the configuration of the areas surrounding their sound metering. I can easily meet their 93db requirement with; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00382.html (10,064 bytes)
22. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>; Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:57:04 -0800; Turn nine is really the best turn at Laguna IMHO. Very difficult, very technical, and costs you a lot when you screw it up. Late, late turn in. Odd for such a slight kink but it's so off camber that; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00383.html (9,030 bytes)
23. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Craig" <wensley_Tr@comcast.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:13:54 -0500; If you let the homeowners tell you what to do When you were there first Then you can say goodbye to the track Craig _______________________________________________ http://www.team.net/donate.html Fot; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00384.html (10,126 bytes)
24. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:18:32 -0700; Same scenario as people who buy cheap houing by an airport and then complain about the noise. Joe C. -- Original Message -- From: "Craig" <wensley_Tr@comcast.net> To: "Chris Kantarjiev" <cak@dimebank; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00386.html (10,966 bytes)
25. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: BillDentin@aol.com; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:05:12 EST; A 4" Cherry Bomb in the muffler? Hell...they'll hear that in Palm Springs. Remember when the five minute warning was a Cherry Bomb? Bill Dentinger ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00387.html (8,994 bytes)
26. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:29:26 -0700; With all this talk about noise and mufflers, it reminds me that I have a Super Trap muffler that needs a good home. It is 18" long and has a 3" input. I was using it as a side pipe on my Honda Powere; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00388.html (8,459 bytes)
27. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: John.Reed@wilson.com; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:25:02 -0800; I remember the five minute canon at RA. It would recoil two feet!! Regards, John Reed Staff Photographer Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA Tel. + 1.773.714.; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00389.html (9,895 bytes)
28. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:43:05 -0800; Interesting idea, and I certainly don't think it should work any other way, but it does. Ultimately even the most altruistic-seeming politicians and the regulators they appoint respond to money or vo; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00390.html (10,521 bytes)
29. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:43:47 -0800; That reminds me, I have a massive stash of completely illegal (in Oregon) fireworks in Nero accumulated during my pass through the lunatic central states where every third kid must be nicknamed "stum; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00391.html (9,167 bytes)
30. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: BillDentin@aol.com; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:06:20 EST; Bill... You, and many others on the FOT list, will recall Bob Wismer's impressive monument at Road America. Originally that monument was to be placed at Blackhawk Farms Raceway, where most of Wismer'; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00392.html (9,535 bytes)
31. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: westerneagleracing@att.net; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:49:49 +0000; The sound station is very visable and is on the outside of the track. One trick is to have your exhaust angled to the inside rather than the outside of the track. Ron Jacobs Western Eagle Racing --; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00393.html (10,115 bytes)
32. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:04:18 -0800; My point exactly. Portland International Raceway is always under some kind of fire. It's a city park, and every so often some people who live nearby get a councilman to explore closing it down "can't; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00395.html (11,788 bytes)
33. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: William G Rosenbach <wgrosenbach@juno.com>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:17:55 -0700; Laguna Seca gets some slack as SCRAMP, the operators of the place are the largest charitable entity on the peninsula, having donated in excess of $1 Billion since opening. As for the drop, apex to ap; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00396.html (8,974 bytes)
34. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "robert bownes" <bownes@seiri.com>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:40:13 -0500; I think the uphill @ Lime Rock might be steeper, as might be the bowl @ NHIS, but those are both uphill... _______________________________________________ http://www.team.net/donate.html Fot mailing; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00397.html (9,579 bytes)
35. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: westerneagleracing@att.net; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:30:10 +0000; I agree. When you walk the track prior to a race try walking up the corkscrew! Ron Jacobs Western Eagle Racing -- Original message from William G Rosenbach <wgrosenbach@juno.com>: -- _______________; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00398.html (9,504 bytes)
36. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Clark W. Nicholls" <cwn.fot@cwnicholls.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:43:23 -0500; How about the downhill under the bridge at Road Atlanta ? Seek and ye shall find. Clark --Original Message-- Dropping 20 ft. in 130 ft. makes it a 15.38% slope. I have not yet found a steeper drop in; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00399.html (8,551 bytes)
37. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:50:42 -0800; It is not the total drop that is stimulating, but the drop over the shortest distance, that is where the "corkscrew" is a winner most times. -- Original Message -- From: "Clark W. Nicholls" <cwn.fot@; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00400.html (9,241 bytes)
38. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: William G Rosenbach <wgrosenbach@juno.com>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:29:12 -0700; I've got the bridge to the tower at 7.9%. _______________________________________________ http://www.team.net/donate.html Fot mailing list Fot@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fo; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00402.html (8,480 bytes)
39. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Paul MacDonald" <macdonaldp@rogers.com>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:48:00 -0500; I wonder how this drop compares to corner 2 at Mosport..the cliff according to Bill Babcock. Paul --Original Message-- From: fot-bounces+macdonaldp=rogers.com@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces+macdo; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00403.html (9,722 bytes)
40. Re: [Fot] Laguna Seca (score: 1): Author: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:55:51 -0800; Mosport is like falling down a very steep hill, Laguna is like falling out a -- Original Message -- From: "Paul MacDonald" <macdonaldp@rogers.com> To: "robert bownes" <bownes@seiri.com>; "William G R; /html/fot/2007-11/msg00404.html (10,687 bytes)

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