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41. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: "John Burk" <joyseydevil@comcast.net>; Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:17:00 -0400; My understanding is before power steering was standard suspension engineers used a few inches of positive scrub to reduce steering effort for parking and now they let other things dictate scrub . Th; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00191.html (8,809 bytes)
42. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: NT788@comcast.net; Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:13:26 +0000 (UTC); Negative scrub would make steering easier,I E kingpin intersection outside of contact patch, with positive caster. Some heavy cars did have neg caster, maybe in conjunction with pos scrub.I think my; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00192.html (9,381 bytes)
43. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>; Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:08:44 -0700; Back in the '40's and early '50's Luxury Cars used a small amount of caster (2-4B0), to decrease steering effort. It couldn't have a bad effect on handling because they drove like a fork lift with fl; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00200.html (7,954 bytes)
44. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: "Joe Lance" <jolylance@earthlink.net>; Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:50:11 -0400; And they kept that negative or zero caster even when they went to power steering--very little directional stability. Even the bicycle mfgs knew better. Lance Back in the '40's and early '50's Luxury; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00201.html (8,462 bytes)
45. [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: "Kirkwood" <saltfever@comcast.net>; Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:44:23 -0700; Good stuff, Mayf. Since bump-steer can be a precursor to a spin; don't we want to know something about the front and rear axle style? Leaf springs, coil over's, Panard bar or Watts link, etc. I like; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00202.html (8,106 bytes)
46. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: "Ed Weldon" <23.weldon@comcast.net>; Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:22:13 -0700; Mayf -- Angular acceleration (about a yaw axis) is equal to the summation of the torques divided by the polar moment of inertia. A perfect car that exactly equal drag and lift on each side of a yaw a; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00203.html (11,950 bytes)
47. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: NT788@comcast.net; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:18:38 +0000 (UTC); And then? Jack And they kept that negative or zero caster even when they went to power steering--very little directional stability. Even the bicycle mfgs knew better. B Lance B --Original Message-- F; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00205.html (9,118 bytes)
48. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: "Doug Odom" <dlodom@charter.net>; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:41:31 -0700; You must also remember that those front end settings were for crowned roads and not the flat freeway type we have now. The good frontend men used to put a little caster stagger to the left into the c; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00206.html (8,677 bytes)
49. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: "John Burk" <joyseydevil@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:27:53 -0400; Jim Culbert crashed his modified roadster in 1957 so he built another one with front wheel drive . Being a pioneer he didn't know the scrub in the jeep hubs and wheels would be a problem . He got the; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00207.html (8,342 bytes)
50. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: "John Burk" <joyseydevil@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:32:58 -0400; Is there a limit to how many parachute packs roadsters can have or where they can be mounted as a way to kill rear lift ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.t; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00208.html (7,780 bytes)
51. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:46:02 -0700; John, now that's thinking out of the box, lol.... Lets see... 4 ft wide, chute pack is about 10 inches so maybe 4 wide by 6 deep, or 24 of them suckers... Yeah, that might take the lift off the rear; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00215.html (8,673 bytes)
52. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>; Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:39:47 -0700; Well let's see. Mount the chutes up high to get the chute in the air flow, to improve deployment. Make it thin and wide to reduce drag and expose more chute to air flow for improved deployment. Place; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00218.html (9,559 bytes)
53. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: "Ed Van Scoy" <ed@vetteracing.com>; Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:38:07 +0000; Who says the chute packs have to actually have a chute in them? Heck, that's a convenient place to store the week's dirty tee shirts! Ed V Well let's see. Mount the chutes up high to get the chute in; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00220.html (8,994 bytes)
54. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: James Tone <gmc6power@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:45:11 -0700 (GMT-07:00); Gary Brauer roadster is legal with his 2 chutes and seems to work well. As I remember the 2 W's parachute was deemed illegal after a few years of running and was redesigned. Just a thought, Why run; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00222.html (8,055 bytes)
55. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: dan warner <dwarner230@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:17:50 -0700 (PDT); If the multiple or unconventional chute pack is deemed to offer some streamlining advantage the roadster owner will be asked to rethink the design, 4.CC, paragraph one. If a V4F street roadster has t; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00224.html (8,724 bytes)
56. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: Ron Gibson <ronggibson@gmail.com>; Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:25:31 -0500; About 18 or 20 years ago didn't the Benham-Piner modified roadster loose a record due to chutes? Don't remember if it was placement, number, shape or whatever. But then again I could be comletely wro; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00225.html (8,540 bytes)
57. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: JERRY FOSTER <fosterap@flash.net>; Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:07:10 -0700 (PDT); I remember a few years ago, the Mike Cook roadster had two side by side chutes, and they "framed" them in with a box which extended about 10" out from the trunk. The top of this box, in effect, creat; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00226.html (9,215 bytes)
58. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: James Tone <gmc6power@earthlink.net>; Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:37:24 -0400 (EDT); _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Land-speed mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00227.html (7,539 bytes)
59. Re: [Land-speed] Car Spins (score: 1): Author: <speedtimer@beyondbb.com>; Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:02:34 -0700; James, what happened to the subject???? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Land-speed mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo; /html/land-speed/2009-06/msg00228.html (8,499 bytes)

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