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1. [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:22:56 -0700 (PDT); Scotts email got me thinking. Who has found a good deal on a Hans device or one of the other similar pieces of safety equipment. Any comments on any of those other systems? DickJ In East Texas ______; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00037.html (7,366 bytes)
2. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer@beyondbb.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:29:34 -0600; Contact Joe Timney at Delaware Chassis. He is in the rule book. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users. SPAMfighter has removed 1972 spam emails to date. Paying users do not hav; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00038.html (8,643 bytes)
3. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "John Romero" <delsolid@gmail.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:34:30 -0700; Some rambling thoughts on my Hans. I have had a Hans for a couple of years but this Speedweek I stopped using it. The combination of the new lateral head restraint and the Hans just didn't work in my; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00039.html (10,006 bytes)
4. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "Adin, David" <DavidAdin@mercydurango.org>; Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:49:20 -0600; The "entry level" device has been available most of the year for around $700 - probably through most suppliers. If needed I will nab some information - one could probably google for dealers or check; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00040.html (8,406 bytes)
5. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "Ed Weldon" <23.weldon@comcast.net>; Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:56:58 -0700; Thanks, John. This is good stuff. Ed Weldon (snip) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Land-speed mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailm; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00041.html (7,703 bytes)
6. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:23:57 -0500; I hope everyone reads "EVERY" thing John wrote... he believes in the hans... but it requires some thought... My question to John is this.... if you were in an accident... would you want it in your ba; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00042.html (7,506 bytes)
7. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "Doug Odom" <dlodom@charter.net>; Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:28:33 -0700; There are some new head and neck movement limiting products coming on the market soon that will work a lot better in some of the type cars we run. I'm going to wait till after the SEMA show and look; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00043.html (10,428 bytes)
8. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>; Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:06:15 -0700; Good thinking John. Exit from a fire needs to be an instinctive habit. It requires no interference and a lot of practice. Bryan _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http:/; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00048.html (11,160 bytes)
9. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: James Tone <gmc6power@earthlink.net>; Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:33:31 -0700 (GMT-07:00); Many of our vehicles were constructed prior to any need/knowledge of head and neck restraints. Many will be hard to use in the constraints which were built at the time. I'm sure Teague #76 liner coul; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00050.html (11,023 bytes)
10. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "John Romero" <delsolid@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:50:40 -0700; Let me clarify my earlier post. I didn't mean to imply that most crashes result in a fire but that most fires happen after the crash, not before it, so surviving the crash is a prerequisite to worryi; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00052.html (9,097 bytes)
11. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "Doug Odom" <dlodom@charter.net>; Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:19:21 -0700; I agree that SFI approval alone should not be the criteria use to judge if the head and neck movement restriction is making the driver safer. Having looked at Tom Burklands device it does what it is; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00053.html (10,597 bytes)
12. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: Skip Higginbotham <saltrat@pahrump.com>; Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:16:15 -0700; In cars with lateral head restraints (either cage structure or padding), Why not attach the forward head restraints to the roll cage instead of the HANS and thereby have no HANS to get in the way of; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00054.html (9,804 bytes)
13. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "MEIERLE Mike" <Mike.Meierle@alcatel-lucent.com>; Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:49:26 -0500; Don't like the idea of hooking my head the roll cage and the rest to the seat. The two might go in different directions....IMHO Mike Meierle Alcatel-Lucent Sr. Systems Engineer 7751 Windsor Drive Dub; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00055.html (9,555 bytes)
14. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: Skip Higginbotham <saltrat@pahrump.com>; Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:13:31 -0700; Scott, it provides the intent of the HANS Device in that the driver's head is kept from snapping forward in the event of a frontal impact. "Must be engineered as an integral part of the entire restra; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00056.html (10,054 bytes)
15. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "Doug Odom" <dlodom@charter.net>; Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:19:12 -0700; The seat should always be attached to the roll cage as one unit. You, the seat and the roll cage staying all together has proven to be the safest way to protect the driver. The rest of the car can fl; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00057.html (9,204 bytes)
16. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: Skip Higginbotham <saltrat@pahrump.com>; Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:22:29 -0700; My driver's harness is hooked to the roll cage braces and the frame......yours is hooked to the seat?????? Should be hooked to the frame or crossmember. If all that goes in different directions, no; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00058.html (9,631 bytes)
17. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "MEIERLE Mike" <Mike.Meierle@alcatel-lucent.com>; Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:31:22 -0500; Hmm, I gotta think about that, the seat, in my truck, is mounted to the roll cage, so the seat and roll cage would be very difficult to separate. The shoulder straps and submarine belt are attached t; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00059.html (9,333 bytes)
18. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "Doug Odom" <dlodom@charter.net>; Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:10:04 -0700; Your lap belts must be attached to the roll bars the same as your seat! That is the only safe way to mount it. Doug Odom in big ditch -- Original Message -- From: "MEIERLE Mike" <Mike.Meierle@alcatel; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00060.html (11,022 bytes)
19. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: "John Romero" <delsolid@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:08:59 -0700; I like that the Hans basically attaches my helmet to my shoulders, which is exactly what I want it to remain nearest! Seat belts can stretch a significant amount. Imagine you seat belts stretching 10; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00061.html (12,145 bytes)
20. Re: [Land-speed] Hans Device and Safety (score: 1): Author: Skip Higginbotham <saltrat@pahrump.com>; Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:41:51 -0700; 10"?????? Do you have any data to back that up? I'd like to see it please. Skip _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Land-speed mailing lis; /html/land-speed/2008-09/msg00062.html (9,578 bytes)

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