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1. [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Jim Auguston" <jauguston@msn.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:23:12 -0700; I am a lurker here but I have to comment on the often said story that there haven't been any new refineries built for (fill in a number) years. I worked as a construction crane operator for 40+ years; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00093.html (7,920 bytes)
2. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:45:44 -0400; I had understood and possibly wrong though that all the refineries in the USA are running in the 95% range of capacity due the loss of capacity after the gulf coast losses from Katrina. dave -- Origi; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00094.html (8,542 bytes)
3. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: Jon Wennerberg <jonwennerberg@nancyandjon.org>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:58:12 -0400; I had understood and possibly wrong though that all the refineries in the USA are running in the 95% range of capacity due the loss of capacity after the gulf coast losses from Katrina. dave I'll cla; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00095.html (8,097 bytes)
4. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Adin, David" <DavidAdin@mercydurango.org>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:15:58 -0600; We aren't believing everything we read in the press or hear on TV, are The three most common lies heard in (pick your state): 1) I won this belt buckle at the rodeo; b) My pickup is paid for; 3) I wa; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00096.html (9,060 bytes)
5. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "joseph lance" <jolylance@earthlink.net>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:21:43 -0400; This thread raises some thoughts: If existing refineries are capable of meeting the present demand for oil products and gasoline and we consider the following over the next 20 years: -- the governmen; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00097.html (9,551 bytes)
6. [Land-speed] no new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Jim Auguston" <jauguston@msn.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:21:03 -0700; My point in posting what I did was to address the specific statement that you hear over and over that there haven't been any new refineries built for (fill in a number) years. By the slimmest of marg; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00098.html (7,915 bytes)
7. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Tom Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:52:12 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time); Ok, since I am basically ready to go racing, I'll sign in on this. First, I take the unpopular position that the oil companies are not to blame. Yes they have had good profits, but when compared to m; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00100.html (9,684 bytes)
8. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Tom Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:59:44 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time); For some reason the link did not go through I'll try again. Just goggle algae farming" will give you lots to look at. Http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2006-01-10-algae-powerplants_x.htm Tom [demi; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00101.html (7,761 bytes)
9. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Tom Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:53:02 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time); I said my position was not popular...all you have to do is pick up a paper or tune into the news and this is what you hear. What isn't taken into account is the massive investment and volume of $'s; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00102.html (10,418 bytes)
10. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:02:39 -0700; How about this for a new law. You can't trade in commodity futures unless you actually take delivery of the product. That should slow the oil speculators down. Jim ___________________________________; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00103.html (7,982 bytes)
11. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: Jon Wennerberg <jonwennerberg@nancyandjon.org>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:54:12 -0400; How about this for a new law. You can't trade in commodity futures unless you actually take delivery of the product. That should slow the oil speculators down. Jim That's exactly what the deal was (f; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00105.html (8,382 bytes)
12. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: Udo Horn <vintagethunder@hotmail.com>; Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:25:06 +0000; Get it right....."The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000" (CFMA) H.R.4541 June 14, 2000. Thank Mr. Clinton> From: jonwennerberg@nancyandjon.org> To: jdincau@qnet.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00106.html (9,212 bytes)
13. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Ed Van Scoy" <ed@vetteracing.com>; Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:31:10 +0000; The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 or CFMA (Public Law 106?554, ?1(a)(5) [H.R. 5660], December 21, 2000, 114 Stat. 2763, 2763A?365, 7 U.S.C. ? 1), was passed by the United States Congres; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00108.html (9,599 bytes)
14. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: <sparky.2211@cox.net>; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:31:58 -0700; Jim that is true at nearly everyone! _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Land-speed mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/la; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00109.html (8,606 bytes)
15. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: BWANA343@aol.com; Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:13:17 EDT; The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 or CFMA (Public Law 106?554, ?1(a)(5) [H.R. 5660], December 21, 2000, 114 Stat. 2763, 2763A?365, 7 U.S.C. ? Getting back to my original question (tires; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00112.html (8,851 bytes)
16. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:50:31 -0700; The use of cooking oils and any other fuel not taxed by the feds and states can be hazardous to your pocket book. Bothe State and Feds want their taxes on the fuel and are willing to fine you a LOT.; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00113.html (10,116 bytes)
17. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:46:27 -0400; How do you tax something if it was free?? Yes I am sure there is probably a way.. My next problem is proving the still I have in the backyard is for making ethanol for my car and not me.. LOL Yeah ri; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00114.html (8,390 bytes)
18. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:23:58 -0700; Free or not, motor fuels are taxed. As I recall the one asked to pay was kinda smart mouthed about it and they said he could pay the tax or the $250,000 fine. What would your choice be? How you doing; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00115.html (9,183 bytes)
19. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: <neil@dbelltech.com>; Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:44:44 -0700; With the price of an injection pump being what it is I don't think I want to experiment with putting anything but #2 diesel in my truck. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ --Original Message-- From: land-speed; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00116.html (9,926 bytes)
20. Re: [Land-speed] No new Refineries (score: 1): Author: "MEIERLE Mike" <Mike.Meierle@alcatel-lucent.com>; Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:05:27 -0500; The Indiana State Police (a customer of mine) checks the COLOR of your Diesel Fuel/Gasoline on traffic stops. If they find you are using Farm Diesel/Gas(no road tax) in your vehicle you get the hefty; /html/land-speed/2008-07/msg00117.html (8,137 bytes)

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