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1. [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:30:15 -0800; I have been messing around building a math model of a 4 wheeled vehicle that I might be able touse in determining the onset of a spin or slde. Rather than use seat of the pants to feel the onset, I t; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00156.html (7,695 bytes)
2. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: <neil@dbelltech.com>; Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:46:38 -0700; I always wondered what to do with that little rate gyro that's been sitting on my shelf for a long time, Mayf. :) Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ I have been messing around building a math model of a 4 whee; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00157.html (8,365 bytes)
3. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: "joseph lance" <jolylance@earthlink.net>; Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:39:07 -0500; Just wondering--some tall skyscrapers have spring dampened sliding weights on the top floor to null out swaying motion caused by wind forces. A form of yaw control. Could an added weight in the rear; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00158.html (10,002 bytes)
4. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: "Ed Weldon" <23.weldon@comcast.net>; Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:13:55 -0800; Mayf -- You're running modified sports car class aren't you? Says in the rule book that you can run a headrest fairing as long as it doesn't extend past the rear of the body. This ought to put the si; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00159.html (8,049 bytes)
5. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>; Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:46:58 -0800; Good questions folks. My first step would be to learn exactly what excessive yaw is and what leads up to it. To me, I see excessive yaw as when the driver has to lift or it's too distracting to the d; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00160.html (7,792 bytes)
6. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:59:39 -0800; Wouldn't need to be excessiv eyaw. But yaw rate. As soon as yaw rate cause a liit to be reacedd then control uses a mass as a reaction body to create and off setting force. Mass free floats on a shaf; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00161.html (8,585 bytes)
7. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:16:31 -0500; _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Land-speed mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00163.html (9,478 bytes)
8. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:56:18 -0600; Mayf... wierd as this might sound... oh and obnoxious.. most of us just... ahhh DRIVE...seriously... your butt will tell you everything you need to know... if your butt is going left, turn that way..; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00164.html (8,131 bytes)
9. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:01:52 -0800; You're right Keith -- for normal cars. I was thinking about Streamliners and some have been built with the driver just behind the front axle. In a 30 foot long car, this doesn't give the driver's but; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00166.html (8,646 bytes)
10. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: dan warner <dwarner230@yahoo.com>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:06:22 -0800 (PST); If you have a "spin prone" streamliner you need to look at other areas. Get a new piece of paper and sharpen your pencil. DW You're right Keith -- for normal cars. I was thinking about Streamliners a; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00167.html (9,283 bytes)
11. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:07:27 -0600; Best part about being up front is they are closer to the scene of the incident and can report accurately... Keith ( hey it's what we always said about fighter pilots... ( damn Jet Jockies always thou; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00168.html (7,649 bytes)
12. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:46:49 -0800; Short cars are far worse. Becasue of the short wheel base, a short car has moved some distance before the driver can react. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00169.html (9,357 bytes)
13. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:28:16 -0800; Time is the big problem with a short wheelbase car. You detect something going on when you notice you're facing the starting line. Bryan _______________________________________________ Support Team.N; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00172.html (8,132 bytes)
14. [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: "Elon" <saltfever@comcast.net>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:05:24 -0800; Great idea, Mayf. I have been working on the same thing myself but only as a means to quickly deploy a chute. I have contacted Systron Donner www.systron.com <http://www.systron.com/> and have quotes; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00176.html (8,798 bytes)
15. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:02:17 -0600; I've talk to Bob Stroud at lenght about an emergency chute... but I don't want a switch or electronic device to deploy it for me... Every single Nitrous Safety device I've used on the Camaro at Bonne; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00177.html (8,260 bytes)
16. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:08:00 -0500; which ones i was there for all that i can remember and none from a design syandpoint that i can think of.... dave -- Original Message -- From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net> To: "Elon" <saltfever@comca; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00179.html (9,223 bytes)
17. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: <sparky.2211@cox.net>; Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 8:55:55 -0500; A tiny quartz rate-sensor is far more sensitive than Preach on Brother--preach on--so-so-true!!!!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.ht; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00184.html (7,698 bytes)
18. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: <neil@dbelltech.com>; Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:56:45 -0700; It looks like Analog Devices has developed a nice line of integrated sensors-- accelerometers, shock sensors, and rate gyros. Their distributor's catalog page is here: http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T0; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00185.html (9,902 bytes)
19. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: <neil@dbelltech.com>; Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:20:14 -0700; This is a presentation by ADI on their sensors: http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/en/tod/Adi/iSensor/iSensor.html The prices of these IC sensors are pretty reasonable compared to other types of sensors. Re; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00186.html (10,449 bytes)
20. Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control (score: 1): Author: "John Burk" <joyseydevil@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:53:28 -0500; Why not a small ruder that's steered by the relative wind that dumps the high speed chute through a microswitch and solenoid at X degrees yaw . Details like unintentional activation and not interfeer; /html/land-speed/2008-12/msg00188.html (7,986 bytes)

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