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1. [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "denis mercier" <denismercier@telvic.net>; Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:07:37 -0400; Hi listers ! I'l just remove from my 260 engine the 1600 thermostat, i'l test it and he open at 1550, engine run at 1700 on the gauge. At your mind what is the best running temperature for small bloc; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00154.html (7,004 bytes)
2. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:59:14 -0400; Ford published that the least amount of wear happens when the small block Ford engine is at 180 degrees F. Today's engines run with 195 or higher thermostats. Never trust the dash temp gauge unless; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00155.html (8,310 bytes)
3. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Dave Munroe" <dave@munroe.ca>; Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:06:18 -0300; Hi Denis: Here is an article that demonstrates the relationship between operating temperature, power potential and engine wear. As Ron says, 180F is the best compromise. My temperature gauge was off; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00156.html (8,245 bytes)
4. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "denis mercier" <denismercier@telvic.net>; Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:19:53 -0400; Thanks Dave ! The article is very interesting. I change the thermostat today for a 180. Denis -- Original Message -- From: "Dave Munroe" <dave@munroe.ca> To: <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; "'denis mercier'"; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00157.html (9,853 bytes)
5. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: Randy Smith <RSSmithIQ@cs.com>; Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:25:27 -0400; As I recall, you don't need to bend the needle to correct your temp gauge. There are actually two potentiometers inside behind two small plugs. These can be adjusted with a screwdriver from the rear; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00158.html (9,362 bytes)
6. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Dave Munroe" <dave@munroe.ca>; Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:47:08 -0300; Re: [Tigers] Engine TemperatureI agree with Al regarding the wide variation in temperatures around the cooling system of your car. I was really surprised at the variance in different locations just o; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00159.html (11,578 bytes)
7. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Dave Munroe" <dave@munroe.ca>; Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:49:40 -0300; NOW you tell me! Oh well, my "bent needle" solution worked anyway.... Dave -- Original Message -- From: Randy Smith To: Dave Munroe Cc: rfraser@bluefrog.com ; 'denis mercier' ; tigers@autox.team.net; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00160.html (8,741 bytes)
8. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Stu Brennan" <stubrennan@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:56:23 -0400; NO! NO! NO! Those may look like adjustments, but you have no idea what to do with them. Before you do anything, please resd: http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/BrennanGauge/rt-BrennanGauge1.asp Stu; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00161.html (7,830 bytes)
9. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Dave Munroe" <dave@munroe.ca>; Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 21:00:20 -0300; Hi Stu; That's an interesting and well researched article you've written. Pheeew, who knew those little gauges were so complex? gauge. Interestingly, that is the degree of accuracy I found with my in; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00162.html (8,946 bytes)
10. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: Randy Smith <RSSmithIQ@cs.com>; Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:28:32 -0400; Well, I guess ignorance is bliss. I played with the adjustments on mine and cross-checked it at various points through the range with an infrared pyrometer/thermometer. While it's not perfect, it is; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00163.html (8,093 bytes)
11. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: Tod Brown <todbrown@roadrunner.com>; Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:45:01 -0400; Hi All: As Stu has noted in his article, the gauge reading and the combined resistance of the gauge and sender have an inverse relationship (i. e . if the gauge reads high, it's because the resistanc; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00164.html (8,629 bytes)
12. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Mike Michels" <mmichels@socal.rr.com>; Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:27:16 -0700; I did the same thing Tod did. Guage was reading too high so I "trimmed" the circuit and adding 4 ohms made it very accurate in the 190-200 degrees range. If gauge is reading too low, however, this tr; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00165.html (10,028 bytes)
13. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: Carmods@aol.com; Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:06:38 EDT; I have used a resister approach to calibrate the temperature gauge like you did but I found that if I put shrink wrap on resistors it may burn off so now I leave resistors exposed to air. John Logan; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00166.html (8,231 bytes)
14. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Smit, Theo" <Theo.Smit@dynastream.com>; Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:17:59 -0500; Hi all, As Tod noted, resistors used in the temperature sender or fuel tank sender circuit can pull quite a bit of current and they should be appropriately rated or else they'll get too hot. I forget; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00167.html (9,777 bytes)
15. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: Tod Brown <todbrown@roadrunner.com>; Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:50:15 -0400; Looking at Stu's data, the temp gauge reads 248 F at 24 ohms, so we can calculate the power consumed from P = V*V/R = (12 v)*(12v)/24 ohms = 6 watts, so a 10 watt resistor should do the job. I mounte; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00168.html (10,465 bytes)
16. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Bob Dixon" <bobdixon@frii.com>; Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:51:58 -0600; " You should probably use a 2, 5, or 10 watt resistor to keep the temperature rise under control and prevent inadvertent burns or melting of other underdash parts" Wouldn't burning and melting be 'pe; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00169.html (8,002 bytes)
17. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: Sandy Ganz <sganz@pacbell.net>; Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:56:26 -0700 (PDT); Couple of thoughts - Does the Temp meter run off of the pulsing voltage regulator too? If so then those calculations might be off since the voltage might be averaged in the 10 Volt range, as well as; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00171.html (12,352 bytes)
18. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Thomas Witt" <atwittsend@verizon.net>; Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:53:22 -0700; A couple of questions and thoughts. Was anyone else forbidden access to the Cullen Bennett calibration page? Does anyone know just how hot the "heater" of the gauge gets? It seems like the ambient te; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00175.html (8,973 bytes)
19. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Stu Brennan" <stubrennan@comcast.net>; Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:16:55 -0400; Lets try this again. The sensor is 24 ohms around the hot end, but it's in series with the gage, which is about 60 Ohms cold (it may get a bit higher when the heater gets hot, but for this lets call; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00176.html (9,439 bytes)
20. Re: [Tigers] Engine Temperature (score: 1): Author: "Stu Brennan" <stubrennan@comcast.net>; Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:02:43 -0400; The gage appears to have two bimetal strips in it, one with a heater, one without. The one without is for ambient temperature compensation. Stu A couple of questions and thoughts. Was anyone else for; /html/tigers/2010-10/msg00177.html (9,773 bytes)

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