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1. 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:13:28 -0700; I noticed today that the stations I stopped at were selling 91 octane as their "premium" gas. Of course the price was the same as what 92 used to be, about $0.2 more than 87. Is this some silly new; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00795.html (7,505 bytes)
2. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: Elmoizme@aol.com; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:17:49 EDT; I only noticed 91 at 76 stations for a few weeks now. Ever since I have been going only to Chevron. I thought I heard somewhere that because they are adding more ethanol, it lowers the octane rating.; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00796.html (7,347 bytes)
3. RE: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Giles Douglas" <giles@vy.com>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:48:45 -0700; its gas - mtbe + ethanol = lower octane rating. I'm afraid that all the major gas stations will switch over to 91 in the next few weeks. Some of them may even sell 88.5 instead of 89 in the meantime.; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00797.html (8,103 bytes)
4. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: Elmoizme@aol.com; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:03:12 EDT; They wouldn't do that, that would be illegal. They would have to re-label before selling. What's the phone number to 7 On Your Side and Contact 4?; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00798.html (7,674 bytes)
5. RE: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:06:56 -0700; And the effect on efficiency & performance for engines designed for 92 octane is: (a) drastic (b) significant (b) barely noticeable (c) nonexistant ???? --Original Message-- From: owner-ba-autox@aut; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00799.html (8,833 bytes)
6. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Lawrence Lane" <firstcard@hotmail.com>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:20:31 -0700; I think it would be more of a "barely noticeable." Most if not all cars that use Premium have a suggested requirement of 91 or more. Larry octane been; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00800.html (10,003 bytes)
7. RE: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:30:34 -0700; Unfortunately, that is "most cars" except for two of my cars which "require" 92 octane according to the owners manual (one is a Lexus GS430, the other is a 4.6L Cobra powered Panoz). Sounds like some; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00803.html (10,541 bytes)
8. RE: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Giles Douglas" <giles@vy.com>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:21:49 -0700; I think its wait and see. My car claims to want 91 on the door, but the chip I have significantly alters the timing. If I get pinging, off to octane boost, if I don't, maybe not. Giles Hmmm. . . And; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00804.html (9,665 bytes)
9. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:46:13 -0700; you have EFI on both cars right? then the computer will just retard the spark to prevent detonation. might reduce peak HP a little. we have a lot of cubes and torque, so it hurts us less than a high; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00805.html (11,944 bytes)
10. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Patrick" <pjsimm@inreach.com>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:02:10 -0700; I have noticed a 3 mpg increase in my Toyota pickup. Colud this be from the lack of MTBE in the fuel. I have been using 76 athe station has a MTBE free banner. The only other thing that changed in I; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00807.html (13,392 bytes)
11. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>; Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:15:24 -0700; synth oil added 3-4 dyno proven RWHP on my 165 HP probe. another 3-4 for synth tranny fluid. 7 RWHP is 8 at the crank, or over 4%. the stuff is slipperier. running a dry sump on my V8 might be worth; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00809.html (15,027 bytes)
12. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: David Rowney <daver@uclink4.berkeley.edu>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:58:23 -0700; Ethanol increases octane, but lowers the energy content of the gasoline blend. See: http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/oxy%2Dfuel/enrgycon.shtml Chevron is going to 91 octane also in Cali; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00814.html (8,856 bytes)
13. RE: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:33:43 -0700; Thanks for the link! Why are they doing this only in California? The fact that it is specific to our home state makes me suspect some silly new laws or social engineering going on behind the scenes.; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00816.html (10,190 bytes)
14. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Lawrence Lane" <firstcard@hotmail.com>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:42:05 -0700; Here's the big question: When are they switching it back??? Larry blend. http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/oxy%2Dfuel/enrgycon.shtml been; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00817.html (9,284 bytes)
15. RE: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: Giles Douglas <giles@vy.com>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:48:28 -0700 (PDT); Well, MTBE is bad because of the polution aspects. But if Ethanol increases the octane but lowers the energy in the gasoline, I'd have expected them to start selling 93 (I mean, anyway, most people b; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00818.html (11,228 bytes)
16. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: John Kelly <76067.1750@compuserve.com>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:09:45 -0400; Message text written by "Patrick" " I have noticed a 3 mpg increase in my Toyota pickup. Colud this be from the lack of MTBE in the fuel." -- End Original Message -- As adding MTBE to fuel reduced fu; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00819.html (8,640 bytes)
17. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:25:02 -0700; offisir, all this gin i have here in my lap is for the car, really it is!! -james to engineering more gasoline doesn't seem to it; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00821.html (11,854 bytes)
18. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:09:04 -0700 (PDT); "Then you shouldn't have drunk it all first, son." KeS (couldn't resist!); /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00826.html (8,292 bytes)
19. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: Giles Douglas <giles@vy.com>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:11:23 -0700 (PDT); "But officer, I was trying to syphon it from the bottles to the gas tank and I swallowed"; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00827.html (8,837 bytes)
20. Re: 91 octane gas (score: 1): Author: "Allendorfer, Mike" <mwa96imp@regionofdoom.com>; Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:27:34 -0700; There-in lies the root hypocrisy of the whole reformulated gas thing. When cars had carburators and no feed-back from an O2 sensor, reformulated gas made some sense. It also may help for that lawnmow; /html/ba-autox/2001-07/msg00832.html (9,887 bytes)

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