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41. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: W S Potter <wester6935@attbi.com>; Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 21:17:13 -0800; Come on Bryan, you have spent lots of time on the salt flats. You can see the curvature of the earth out there. Perhaps you were just too busy going fast to pay attention. Wes /// unsubscribe/change; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00320.html (8,904 bytes)
42. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 20:55:57 -0800; Now that I've had my cataracts removed Wes, I should be able to see it! Bryan /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// A; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00324.html (8,692 bytes)
43. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: pork.pie@t-online.de (Pork Pie); Date: 07 Jan 2003 21:47 GMT; Howard, if it was not you, than it was someone who worked with you on the FIA record holder - your first streamliner - when you improved the aerodynamic. Sorry, sometimes I mix up the faces - I see y; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00330.html (9,034 bytes)
44. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:36:30 EST; << So you need to match the power output to the total drag of the car and capability of the motor. >> Absolutely its about horsepower working at its best for the application, drags is a different app; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00337.html (8,689 bytes)
45. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:10:12 EST; << In other words, use from each the best and combine them to a proper concept - this is innovation. See ya Pork Pie >> Your information is very helpful keep it up! Thanks JACK /// unsubscribe/change; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00342.html (8,625 bytes)
46. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:13:48 EST; << Jack..............surely the right gear will put you into the right rpm where the most power is. Chris Harris..........................NZed. >> I agree! It's the application that has to be scrutin; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00343.html (8,713 bytes)
47. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:34:54 EST; << the Earth is flat. Anyone can see that it's flat. Bryan >> Thanks. I am going to race on a flat world, until someone beats me! That's the guy who I learn from be he scientist or fraud! You got me; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00348.html (8,617 bytes)
48. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:40:05 EST; << I agree to a point but the engine developed maximum power at 8000 on the dyno and I was only turning it 7400 out the back door. Down about 30 HP. Howard >> A little tiny lower gear, right? Jack //; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00350.html (8,631 bytes)
49. RE: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:04:19 -0600; you mean you ignore the reduction in downforce/traction caused by the centrifugal force??!! Russ, #1226B --Original Message-- From: owner-land-speed@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-land-speed@autox.tea; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00357.html (9,191 bytes)
50. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 08:12:31 -0800; It was me (fat boy). I was borrowing shade from Ed Tradup and Richard Thomason and I was talking about the new lower tail section you made and how great it worked. (5MPH faster with 7 PSI less boost; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00358.html (9,476 bytes)
51. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:32:20 EST; << you mean you ignore the reduction in downforce/traction caused by the centrifugal force??!! Russ, #1226B >> I won't ignore it from now on! thanks Jack /// unsubscribe/change address requests to ma; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00364.html (8,566 bytes)
52. RE: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Waldron, James" <James.Waldron@CWUSA.COM>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:18:11 -0500; Ok. So teardrops are good low drag shapes. Can I assume that if you make the nose 'pointier' and use a curve flatter than 6 degrees on the back that the Cd drops until at some point the gains are off; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00375.html (8,758 bytes)
53. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>; Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:50:39 -0700; Jack, Yep! We did not have the correct quick change gear to get closer and the engine was starting to fill up the puke tank with oil at about that time so another gear would not have mattered. Howard; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00377.html (9,202 bytes)
54. RE: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Waldron, James" <James.Waldron@CWUSA.COM>; Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:35:41 -0500; I think this one may have been lost. Ok. So teardrops are good low drag shapes. Can I assume that if you make the nose 'pointier' and use a curve flatter than 6 degrees on the back that the Cd drops; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00433.html (8,538 bytes)
55. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:13:06 EST; << Minimum width is controlled, of course, by the minimum space required for my fat but.... wide shoulders. >> Thats it! Thats it! Jack; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00443.html (8,212 bytes)
56. RE: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Waldron, James" <James.Waldron@CWUSA.COM>; Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:13:25 -0500; For the continuing thrash about this: Can I infer from your message that there is an assumption that a teardrop is the perfect shape? I realize that the practicalities of fitting an engine and drive; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00551.html (10,525 bytes)
57. RE: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: Skip Higginbotham <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:22:49 -0600; My take on ground clearance and NT is that NT works well because it keeps the vast majority of the air out from under the car. Put a car close to the ground and put air under it and it will resemble; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00560.html (10,569 bytes)
58. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "DrMayf" <drmayf@teknett.com>; Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:37:25 -0800; Danger, danger, danger...unsolicited opinions coming...warning, etc YMMV, hit delete now..... Well, all the hoopla over teardrop shape has me sorta laughing to myself. First when the idea formed up i; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00579.html (9,401 bytes)
59. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>; Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:32:02 -0700; From the information I have read and been told by college professors, the teardrop is one of the most efficient shapes known. If you think about how it is formed.--Liquid water drawn by gravity assu; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00580.html (11,893 bytes)
60. Re: Aerodynamics (score: 1): Author: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>; Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:21:32 -0700; I was referring to the shape of the car viewed from the top. Obviously not a complete three dimensional teardrop. NT is fast because of the small hole it piunches in the air, not because of it's sha; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg00585.html (10,166 bytes)

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