- 1. Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom Crain" <tomcrain@gulftel.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:43:52 -0500
- It was only a short blip in racing history, disallowed by a rules change = but Jim Hall's "Vacuum Cleaner" Chapparalls used a small engine driven = fan together with flexible skirting to suck his car
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00088.html (7,504 bytes)
- 2. Re: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: WSpohn4@aol.com
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:51:52 EDT
- And a giant leap forward in track cleaning machinery! As long as you weren't behind it. Bill
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00090.html (7,601 bytes)
- 3. RE: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: "Wood, Barry" <barry.wood@lmco.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:46:18 -0600
- I believe that the engines Hall used were snowmobile engines which I would not consider as small. It was only a short blip in racing history, disallowed by a rules change = but Jim Hall's "Vacuum Cle
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00092.html (7,939 bytes)
- 4. Re: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: "Carl McLelland" <carlynneracing@home.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:59:13 -0700
- The Jim Hall "vacuum cleaner" Chaparral was outlawed, not because of the suction (ground effect) that occurred, but for a safety reason. (Note: another major benefit of the 'vacuum cleaner' was that
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00094.html (8,598 bytes)
- 5. Re: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: WSpohn4@aol.com
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:29:44 EDT
- The former meant that you wouldn't get any benefit from trying to slipstream it. The latter effectively removed any inclination to try and find out. Bill
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00096.html (7,867 bytes)
- 6. Re: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: Gregory_Schulz@mil-elect-tool.com
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:18:30 -0500
- Jim H. had his Chaparral 1, 2, 2E, 2F and 2J at Road America 7/19-22. One day the 2E was taken out for a 2 lap run. The next day the Chaparral 2 appeared for a couple of circuits. For the Can-Am feat
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00098.html (8,019 bytes)
- 7. Re: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom Crain" <tomcrain@gulftel.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 15:02:16 -0500
- Its great to see and hear the different things list members remember about Hall and his cars. No question about it, it was always exciting to see what that crazy (as a fox) Texan would bring out next
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00100.html (8,646 bytes)
- 8. Re: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: lwdent <lwdent@fwi.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:14:14 -0500
- Small compared to the big block aluminum chevy engines pushing the car along the track.
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00103.html (7,338 bytes)
- 9. Re: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: "Mike Cobine" <mcobine@earthlink.net>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:49:51 -0400
- Nah, probably all the same size. Just one is in cc and the other in cid. would
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00104.html (7,926 bytes)
- 10. Re: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: john donohoe <gt6driver@yahoo.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:16:20 -0700 (PDT)
- My vote would have to go to Colin Chapman and his Lotus F1 Car whose body was designed as an inverted wing. Jim Hall's "Sucker Car" was depending on that snowmobile engine to suck the car to the road
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00105.html (8,535 bytes)
- 11. Re: Early Downforce (score: 1)
- Author: Tombread@aol.com
- Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:24:47 EDT
- Nikki Lauda won one race in the Brabham Alfa Parmalat sucker car car in '78; then it was banned. Tom Butters The Greens Fork Group (765) 886-5098 (317) 955-7422 The Easley Vintage Grand Prix October
- /html/vintage-race/2001-08/msg00109.html (7,526 bytes)
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