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1. In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Tab Julius <tab@penworks.com>; Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 16:15:45 -0700; For a '78B All my other vehicles are '90+, and as much as I love the MG, I must say that the brakes are quite a change (but of course, similar to what I grew up with). I don't mind trying to spend a; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg00939.html (7,954 bytes)
2. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Max Heim <mvheim@studiolimage.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:41:24 -0700; Vented rotors would reduce fade after multiple stops, not improve your stopping distance (which is what I assume you are interested in). The calipers might have a significant effect, although I don't; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg00969.html (9,356 bytes)
3. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: "Michael P. Ohleger" <movlas2@gte.net>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:30:20 -0300; I added a servo assist to my 67. Had great results. All the other stuff is ok albeit extra $$$$ and I don't think it will stop you any faster unless you add the assist. The servo gave me greater sto; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg00994.html (8,821 bytes)
4. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Tab Julius <tab@penworks.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:28:39 -0700; I'll look servo assists - thanks. I don't expect much from the vented rotors except in wet weather, but I get plenty of that here, so I might do those. But the servo assists sound intriguing... Thank; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg00998.html (9,787 bytes)
5. RE: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: "Dodd, Kelvin" <doddk@mossmotors.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:07:30 -0700; You have power brakes already. The servo that Michael was talking about is an earlier power brake unit that mounted remotely from the pedal assembly. When dual brakes came out, the servo was mounted; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01002.html (11,313 bytes)
6. RE: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Tab Julius <tab@penworks.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:48:27 -0700; Thanks, yes, I was misled by the mushiness. Still any value to the vented rotors for wet weather? - Tab; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01008.html (12,449 bytes)
7. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Max Heim <mvheim@studiolimage.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:18:07 -0700; Excuse me, but why would vented rotors be of help in wet weather? I believe you are thinking of cross-drilled rotors. Vented rotors consist of two solid disks separated by radial vanes, which in moti; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01013.html (11,180 bytes)
8. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Max Heim <mvheim@studiolimage.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:18:06 -0700; Hmmm, I would think it would be more correct to say that the servo gives you less pedal effort for the equivalent stopping power. The addition of the servo would not shorten your stopping distances u; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01014.html (10,267 bytes)
9. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Tab Julius <tab@penworks.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:35:26 -0700; Don't know, but Moss and Victoria mention the drilled rotors (with holes) but refer to them as vented or ventilated - helps the pad disperse water quicker. Whatever the term, that's what I'm referrin; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01020.html (12,574 bytes)
10. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Max Heim <mvheim@studiolimage.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:25:44 -0700; OK, so THEY don't know what they're talking about... ; ) Actually, I just looked up the Moss catalog and they specifically call them "cross-drilled brake rotors" (vents are never mentioned), so they; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01021.html (14,652 bytes)
11. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Gonaj@aol.com; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:37:41 EDT; A chemist friend of mine has developed a cocktail to replace the standard DOT 4 or DOT 5 brake fluid. It is not commercially available, you have to collect the ingredients and mix it yourself but it; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01026.html (8,755 bytes)
12. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Tab Julius <tab@penworks.com>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:38:42 -0700; Before I misquote our friends at Moss... I have seen something in their catalog, pretty sure, and I believe it was the cross-drilled rotors, basically with the holes to let the water out and stop fas; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01027.html (10,830 bytes)
13. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: James Nazarian Jr <James.Nazarian@Colorado.EDU>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:01:27 -0600 (MDT); I'm curious, does it involve greater downforce, larger tires, and lighter James Nazarian '71 B roadster '71 BGT rust free and burnt orange '63 Buick 215; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01031.html (9,136 bytes)
14. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Eric <eric@erickson.on.net>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:38:12 +0000; Yep, I am confused about this 'braking power', as displayed the other day, when I press down on my brake pedal, the 'braking power' or rather the 'stopping power' is up to me. Either I can judge the; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01033.html (9,446 bytes)
15. RE: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: "Christopher W. Reichle" <CREICHLE@bdpb.com>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:47:08 -0400; You could use oversized pads in the front. This would require cutting or replacing the rotors which you would do anyway when replacing pads right? They fit in the stoc caliper on the stock rotor but; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01035.html (9,996 bytes)
16. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Gonaj@aol.com; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:45:36 EDT; Its a fluid which expands under pressure increasing the force within the system. Sort of like power brakes w/o any hardware alteration. George; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01036.html (8,650 bytes)
17. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Susan and John Roper <vscjohn@huntnet.net>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:17:39 -0500; With all due respect George, your friend would have to find a way to violate the laws of physics for that to happen. Brake fluid does not compress to any appreciable measure, and thus transmits the f; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01041.html (9,271 bytes)
18. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Ajhsys@aol.com; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:30:33 EDT; << Still any value to the vented rotors for wet weather? >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - It is my understanding that cross-drilled disks are designed to let gasses escape under hard braking, especially; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01044.html (9,210 bytes)
19. Re: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: Bob Howard <mgbob@juno.com>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:58:20 -0400; Partly. It provides the effect of additional downforce, but without the disadvantages. Properly bled, and free of bubbles, it ionizes the turbulent air that eddies behind SUVs. That ionized air then; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01047.html (10,301 bytes)
20. RE: In search of Better Brakes... (score: 1): Author: "Christopher W. Reichle" <CREICHLE@bdpb.com>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:17:12 -0400; And might I add that smoke, not electricity, is carried by wires in your car. Smoke is converted to electricity at the point where wires connect to a device like a motor. A damaged wire may leak smok; /html/mgs/2000-04/msg01049.html (11,327 bytes)

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