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1. M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:43:45 -0700; Bob Tunnell whooped every ESP driver that competed against him all year, including 1+ second wins in the ProSolo Finale and the Solo II National Championship. I haven't seen ESPL results yet, but I e; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00325.html (9,503 bytes)
2. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "Dave Kizerian" <davekizerian@hotmail.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:35:36 -0600; driver So what about the 4th place eagle talon? Should they boot him too? He beat Merridith? The top 15 places had the following cars in them 6 camaros 4 eagle talons 3 M3s 1Mustang 1 Firebird Mark; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00326.html (9,633 bytes)
3. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "Steven T. Ekstrand" <cyberlaw@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:17:53 -0700; I don't get the argument. Eliminate the driver issue. Take Mark Daddio, he's not a driver anyway, he's a God. Clone him. Place Mark 1 in an Tunnel's Magic '95 M3. Place Mark 2 in Maradesh's monster F; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00327.html (9,149 bytes)
4. RE: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:16:40 -0700; The best Talon entry was 2.5 seconds slower than the best ponycar entry. The DSM's are fine in ESP. Fedja and Brian were 8 and 9 last year and this year (not counting the M3s, the are 9 and 2 this y; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00328.html (10,755 bytes)
5. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "Brad Cox" <COXB@trimofran.org>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:28:11 -0500; No, because Talon's did not come in and utterly dominate ESP in both pro and amateur Solo immediately after being reclassed. However, they have had some success, along with continuing improvement, w; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00329.html (9,325 bytes)
6. RE: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:21 -0700; Too many M3 drivers are doing too well this year at too many events. top drivers in unequal Yes. I agree wholeheartedly. I don't know why a minority of people insist on calling these cars dinosaurs.; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00330.html (9,576 bytes)
7. RE: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:26:41 -0700; --Original Message-- OK, so Patty "only" won by 3 seconds over last year's national champion.; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00331.html (8,639 bytes)
8. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "Steven T. Ekstrand" <cyberlaw@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:00:42 -0700; Another observation out of the ESP and ESPL results is that the M3 was superior on both the South and North courses by similiar margins. Even though the courses were quite distinct. Even Stagnaro cou; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00332.html (8,889 bytes)
9. RE: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:36:43 -0700; Another observation out of the ESP and ESPL results is that the M3 was superior on both the South and North courses by similiar margins. Even though the courses were quite distinct. Even Stagnaro cou; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00334.html (9,623 bytes)
10. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "Dave Whitworth" <dave@wcsllc.net>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:55:39 -0500; Getting persoal is what brngs down this list, so please don't misinterpret the following: 1) If an unnamed number of ESP pony cars are staying away from National's because of the BMW's what does that; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00344.html (13,120 bytes)
11. RE: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:15:52 -0700; That those people believe it is not worth their time/money to compete. You can try to convince them otherwise, but the size of that communications effort can be quite large. This is an absolute stat; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00346.html (9,847 bytes)
12. RE: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "Arlyn Strano" <arlyn@stranoparts.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:33:40 -0400; Every likes to win and I am sure that if you did drive Bob's BMW, even though you think you wouldn't win, there is a small part of you that would hope you would. Don't understand the idea of expectin; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00348.html (14,226 bytes)
13. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "Woody" <woodym3@erols.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:34:52 -0400; It looks to me like last year's ESPL "national champion" would have only been 20th (17th without those damn M3s) in the open class this year. Based on that I don't feel sorry for her losing the titl; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00350.html (10,011 bytes)
14. RE: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:46:36 -0700; I'm not sure what to make of this. I'm guessing you don't think there should be Ladies classes since if they aren't good enough to win in an open class, what happens to them in a Ladies class is irr; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00352.html (10,296 bytes)
15. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Andrew_Bettencourt@kingston.com; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:33:39 -0700; Oh ya, remember at the 1995 Nationals when Tunnel beat Daddio? Mark was in his DOHC Neon and Bob was in that 318is? Bob is a MONSTER driver. He was only winning by .4 on the North after day 1. He add; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00353.html (10,974 bytes)
16. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "msmith2" <msmith2@columbus.rr.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:16:10 -0400; I always thought Dinosaurs were extinct...... FS, ESP, and CP, represent a HUGE cross section of class subscription all on their own. That doesn't sound anywhere near extinct to me...... Mike; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00357.html (9,389 bytes)
17. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "Phil Ethier" <pethier@isd.net>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:00:26 -0500; Not a 308. Hopeless autocross car. Steering is WAY too slow. Phil Ethier Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1970 Lotus Europa, 1992 Saturn SL2, 1986 Suburban, 1962 Triumph TR4 CT2846L LOON, MAC pethier@isd.ne; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00360.html (9,367 bytes)
18. re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net>; Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:44:48 -0400; I congratulate them on a great season. Patty has been astounding all year. Note that 3rd place was much more distant from 2nd than 2nd was from 1st. Where are all the Pony Car drivers between Mark a; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00368.html (12,696 bytes)
19. RE: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: "Jeff Lloyd" <Jeff@cyberconceptz.com>; Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:58:18 -0400; And if all these so called ESP dirvers failed to show up how many "took a dive" to get the M3 out of ESP More then you think I'm sure Jeff The best Talon entry was 2.5 seconds slower than the best po; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00369.html (12,178 bytes)
20. Re: M3 Out of ESP - No Longer a Controversy (score: 1): Author: Randy Chase <randyc2@home.com>; Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:08:18 -0700; Regardless of the merit (or lack of) of moving the M3, I think the statement that Todd Green is not a national caliber driver to be rediculous. I have seen how serious Todd is about improving his ski; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00370.html (9,307 bytes)

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