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1. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: Dick Jurkowski <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:29:44 -0800 (PST); Fuel, other than gasoline, has always been a mystery to me. If I understand correctly, compression, fuel flow, ignition timing and mixture are what have to be changed for using other than gasoline. 1; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00049.html (8,832 bytes)
2. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:16:56 -0500; well, maybe some of the veteran land speed racing gurus can help out here, but i think methanol has an equivalent octane of near 140 , and while a gasoline internal combustion engine utilizes an air; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00056.html (8,720 bytes)
3. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:13:00 -0800; My only Problem with Methanol was sitting on the line next to someone running it when I was strapped in waiting to go.... I about gagged on the fumes... I think John and Brad were both concerned and; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00057.html (10,345 bytes)
4. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:54:58 -0500; keith, thats where the prophecy is - in the fumes - breath deep !; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00060.html (7,548 bytes)
5. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: dahlgren <dahlgren@uconect.net>; Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 08:24:15 -0500; I had understood it to be closer to 120-122 which is still much better than gasoline Have worked on sprinters for a very long time and alky drag cars am not disputing the benefits but is not a fuel t; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00061.html (10,140 bytes)
6. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: "Daniel Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 05:47:57 -0800; I would think that if an fuel/gas expert(supplier) is at a race meet it might be prudent to use the gas they recommend. I find that free advice at the salt is the best. A phone call during the off se; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00062.html (10,967 bytes)
7. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: Dick Jurkowski <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:00:45 -0800 (PST); I dont' think it's as simple as doubling my jet sizes and filling the tank with methanol instead of gas. What needs to be done, and why do I want to do that? == Dick J - - ECTA #72 G/FCC - FX/GMR; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00068.html (10,064 bytes)
8. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:36:16 -0500; well, your right , if you blindly "double" the jet size and fill the tank with methanol i think you will find yourself in big trouble. but if you take a , say, a decent carbureted small block engine; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00072.html (9,117 bytes)
9. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: ARDUNDOUG@aol.com; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:02:39 EST; For IR (Hilborn-type) injectors there are some pretty standard starting-points regards nozzle size, bypass jet size, injector pump size, etc. when starting to use methanol. The folks at Laguna Lean-; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00073.html (8,698 bytes)
10. RE: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: "Ferguson, Darrell" <dfergus@bactc.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:21:34 -0800; Depending on how rich the idle circuit is set in a particular engine will dictate how acrid the fumes are from the exhaust. When running gasoline, this setting is particularly critical. The approxima; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00076.html (18,341 bytes)
11. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: V4GR@aol.com; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:36:15 EST; Now that was a very good "Fuels 101" Thank you. Rich Fox; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00078.html (8,460 bytes)
12. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:46:26 -0800; I know all this stuff but never in a month of Sundays could I put it into words. Thanks Darrell heat sure references is Here's of than air/fuel however, it a to 9~11 out to an little the Methanol ar; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00081.html (16,607 bytes)
13. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:31:06 -0800; Hi group: I have been following the discussion of various fuels and have definitely learn more on the subject. I taught "textbook" information on fuels, tuneup, and computer controls for a number of; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00084.html (10,148 bytes)
14. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:58:52 -0800; Is this a test? oh well here goes my 12 EE. Could it be that the excess oxygen combines with aluminum just as well as with fuel? Jim in Palmdale; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00085.html (9,193 bytes)
15. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:04:41 -0500; Why do lean mixture burn holes in pistons? the sheer heat of the burning charge melts them, in a lean mix there is no residual fuel after the air is totally consumed by combustion to quench , or abso; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00087.html (9,027 bytes)
16. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:24:44 -0800; I posed this question because for years I had assumed that lean mixtures burned hotter. Then I went to a seminar put on by a fuel guru here on the West Coast who was explaining many facets of fuel pr; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00089.html (10,096 bytes)
17. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:42:24 -0500; Lean mixtures actually burn with less temperature, but because a lean mixture also burns slower, the heat is held to the piston for a longer period of time, hence "Melt Down." "lean mixtures actually; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00128.html (10,779 bytes)
18. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:17:43 -0800; Sounds to me as though you are trying to tell me that I have misstated the facts. I am just giving you the info that I received from a person with credentials on the subject. And I do still know tha; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00146.html (11,703 bytes)
19. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: ardunbill@webtv.net; Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:19:43 -0500 (EST); This discussion is persistent which shows both that people are interested in the subject, and it is not a settled matter. Some contributors to the discussion are time-served veteran racers who have l; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00157.html (10,526 bytes)
20. Re: Methanol Solves Mysteries (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:00:04 -0500; tom- i didnt know we were fighting, i'm just chatting on the forum, please excuse me. i think i have explained some of the reasons why lean mixes melt pistons, but since you have heard a different re; /html/land-speed/1999-11/msg00160.html (8,811 bytes)

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