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1. Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "Peter Schauss" <schauss@worldnet.att.net>; Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:52:49 -0400; The specs on my new car call for synthetic oil. When I start the car, the computer displays the mileage to the next maintenance and tells me what maintenance is required. Right now the number points; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00120.html (8,002 bytes)
2. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: BSHolden@aol.com; Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:08:01 EDT; I am inclined to perform an oil (Mobile 1) and filter change every 5,000 miles on my Durango that is used as a tow vehicle and for every day local travel. Better safe than sorry. And not quite as an; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00121.html (8,405 bytes)
3. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: Paul Parkanzky <parkanz1@msu.edu>; Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:13:24 -0400; Many new cars have much longer service intervals than many are used to. My five year old Jetta calls for oil changes every 10,000 miles. Oils and manufacturing tolerances have gotten much better. Unl; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00122.html (8,785 bytes)
4. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "Bill Engle, Sr." <whesr@iglou.com>; Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:40:22 -0400; The oil will probably last 15,000 miles, but there is no way that the oil filter will last that long. 7,500 should be the longest interval. Bill; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00127.html (8,689 bytes)
5. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: Trevor Boicey <tboicey@brit.ca>; Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:14:37 -0400; ...and why not? In a modern clean-burning engine, that has always used modern oils, there just isn't a whole lot of "stuff" floating around to filter... The people who wrote the manual know the produ; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00128.html (9,453 bytes)
6. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "Chadwick E. Labno" <clab@bellsouth.net>; Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:34:50 -0400; As I recall, when Mobil 1 was first sold, changing the oil was not required, just a filter replacement at some mileage interval and toping off the oil level.; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00130.html (8,377 bytes)
7. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "Nolan Penney" <npenney@mde.state.md.us>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 05:58:06 -0400; A number of oil studies I've seen in recent years show the 10-20k oil changes are perfectly fine. The onboard computer systems that dynamically determine oil change intervals are quite good according; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00133.html (9,155 bytes)
8. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "FRED E THOMAS" <frede.thomas2@verizon.net>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:46:30 -0400; == I somewhat agree with what you say, now how about the "CEO" of that car company saying the car gets 45 MPG, am I to accept that as fact or a selling point, same can be said with 15,000 mile inter; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00135.html (9,361 bytes)
9. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "FRED E THOMAS" <frede.thomas2@verizon.net>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:50:02 -0400; == This is the same with diesel locomotives, they change the filters on a regular basis, the oil only after many 1,000's of hours. "FT"; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00136.html (9,062 bytes)
10. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: Paul Parkanzky <parkanz1@msu.edu>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:09:44 -0400; That's not really fair. I know that at least one company recently wanted to quote a lower number for fuel economy for its hybrid car, but because of federal regulations it had to use the window stick; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00137.html (9,476 bytes)
11. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "Bill Engle, Sr." <whesr@iglou.com>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:04:02 -0400; Because they are made out of treated paper and they start to disintegrate before they are replaced. BMW has acknowledged that is a problem. The long term oil change intervals are based on limiting th; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00139.html (10,671 bytes)
12. RE: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:53:58 -0700; And there was a test where they loaded Mobil 1 into a new fleet of taxis and followed the recommended service intervals. The test was discontinued at 40,000 miles due to excess oil consumption ... R; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00141.html (8,941 bytes)
13. RE: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:06:53 -0700; That's all true enough, Trevor. However, as I'm sure you know, what the engineers say is frequently not what winds up in the owner's manual. Plus, engineers are always given design guidelines ... ma; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00142.html (9,826 bytes)
14. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: John Miller <jem@milleredp.com>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:15:20 -0700; Another thing to consider is that some cars hold a lot more oil than others. Our Bimmer V8s hold 8qt of oil and the filter element is (guess) 1.5x the size of a traditional FL1A-or-similar quart-siz; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00143.html (9,198 bytes)
15. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: Dave Williams <ronin@aristotle.net>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:25:04 -0500; Not necessarily. Much of the time, it's marketing, not engineering. You may have been around long enough to remember the last round of the "service interval wars" in the 1960s, starting with "permane; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00144.html (9,338 bytes)
16. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: Trevor Boicey <tboicey@brit.ca>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:31:47 -0400; Well don't let me ruin a good conspiracy theory, but I don't think it's in any car maker's best interest to have the engine fail a week after the warranty period ends either. As for "lost sale of a r; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00148.html (8,857 bytes)
17. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: John Miller <jem@milleredp.com>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:32:10 -0700; We have a couple cars that have the oil-interval counter. One ticks over at about 9000 miles, the other (an '00 M5) will go 12-14K miles between oil changes. In general, I change the oil once in bet; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00149.html (8,897 bytes)
18. RE: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:42:28 -0700; Trevor Boicey replied : I've never worked for the "big 3" US car makers, but I have friends that have. And if they could save even $.10 per car without raising the warranty costs at all, they would.; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00152.html (9,136 bytes)
19. Re: Oil change interval for synthetic oil (score: 1): Author: "Neil" <neil@sherry02.freeserve.co.uk>; Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:10:21 +0100; Perhaps the synthetic oil was too slippery to allow the piston rings to bed in and seal properly - it happens even with some non-synthetics. Neil and; /html/shop-talk/2004-09/msg00153.html (8,291 bytes)

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