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1. Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "3liter" <saltfever@comcast.net>; Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 00:49:26 -0800; What are the pros and cons of roof-rails compared to the "pop-up" roof spoilers that NASCAR uses? There is no question that the NASCAR spoilers work. However, there is still no mention of the NASCAR; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00015.html (7,429 bytes)
2. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 05:07:53 -0600; Elon.... your dealing with two seperate issues... roof rails are designed to spoil lift when the car is sideways and roof flaps purpose is to keep the rear of the car on the ground as it spins backwa; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00016.html (8,157 bytes)
3. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "Rick Byrnes" <rick@rbmotorsports.com>; Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 09:38:28 -0500; Keith is of course 100% correct. (awww hard to admit). To add to his post though, NASCAR is using roof rails. They do prevent the car from flying when going sideways at high speed. Roof Flaps on the; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00017.html (8,334 bytes)
4. RE: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "Glenn Ridlen" <glennr7@hotmail.com>; Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 18:17:35 -0600; Their are probably people here much mure qualified than I to answer this. So this just my guess/opinion. I think the NASCAR flaps are primarily to keep the car from lifting when it is going backward; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00026.html (8,765 bytes)
5. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: W S Potter <wester6935@comcast.net>; Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 18:26:52 -0700; Then there's the fact that the roof rails are required by the SCTA/BNI rules. See p. 38, 4.X "Roof rails are REQUIRED when the existing class record exceeds 200 mph." No such requirement for flaps an; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00027.html (8,939 bytes)
6. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <saltracer@servusa.com>; Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:59:37 -0500; I for one would have a real problem putting them in if the flaps were ever "required". Don't think that's in the near future anyway. JB at; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00029.html (8,497 bytes)
7. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "dpulju" <dpulju@usintouch.com>; Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 19:07:14 -0800; Nice article in Feb 2004 Hot Rod mag. on salt racing. dark and 45 in pahrump; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00030.html (7,827 bytes)
8. Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "3liter" <saltfever@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:29:20 -0800; Thanks guys for the quick response. Sorry I didn't reply individually, but I get the digest at the end of the day and then reply at that time. To sum up, you all indicated the NASCAR pop-ups help whe; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00032.html (9,977 bytes)
9. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <saltracer@servusa.com>; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 07:41:41 -0500; " I know the NASCAR spoilers work without question. We should be able to take advantage of the technology developed in those million dollar test rides. -Elon" Have at it, no rule says you can't. Grib; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00033.html (8,199 bytes)
10. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <saltracer@servusa.com>; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 07:47:18 -0500; "I have seen the kits and they are not so large that they can't conform to many roof styles. In fact the older cars have such a flat roof the installation would be easy. (Maybe a flat roof doesn't ne; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00034.html (8,644 bytes)
11. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <saltracer@servusa.com>; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:00:21 -0500; "When you spin (at some point during the 360) you are going BACKWARDS! The rail is not going to help at all." Have personally been in this position before, over 200 MPH, and in more than one car. Don; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00035.html (8,830 bytes)
12. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 08:57:44 -0800; To anyone thinking about making their own Roof Spoilers. Find a real NASCAR unit and examine it. You'll be impressed by how strong it is. During development they tore the first ones apart. Hard to vi; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00036.html (8,462 bytes)
13. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <saltracer@servusa.com>; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:22:28 -0500; Right, and that's only to take 180 to 200 MPH situations. What would they need to look like for 300 MPH? JB; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00037.html (8,807 bytes)
14. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer@charter.net>; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:53:26 -0800; Not all lift is caused by air over the top of the vehicle, air under is just as bad and more difficult to spoil once the car is backwards. In most cases the rear is lighter and already starting to li; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00038.html (9,511 bytes)
15. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: Nt788@aol.com; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:44:32 EST; It seems to me rails and flaps are something that fixes an existing problem, after the fact. Nascar's turn and get bumped, we don't. Adding an anchor would help also. I believe its a design problem.; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00039.html (8,289 bytes)
16. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: Skip Higginbotham <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 11:56:03 -0600; I agree, the anchor will work....also just keeping the Cg in front of the Cp would make most of the spin problems go away.....but then, that's a design fix...... Skip (too cold to go out and play th; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00040.html (8,905 bytes)
17. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "John Burk" <joyseydevil@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:35:16 -0500; Darts and arrows don't need roof flaps or roof rails - Neither do FWD cars .; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00043.html (7,807 bytes)
18. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: Doug Odom <dlodom@charter.net>; Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 17:38:32 -0800; OK let me stir the pot some. After all I haven't pissed off the list yet this year. Can anyone explain to me what arrows, darts or bullets have to do with LSR? A bullet, dart and arrow are all slowin; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00045.html (8,100 bytes)
19. Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "3liter" <saltfever@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:06:29 -0800; Once again, thanks to all that responded. Grib, thanks for that great link. A lot of valuable information on the development of the roof "flaps". It gives confidence in their function when you see th; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00047.html (8,149 bytes)
20. Re: Rails vs Spoilers (score: 1): Author: "John Burk" <joyseydevil@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:01:08 -0500; Doug - The point was , with careful driving and enough fine tuning an object that is happier going backwards can be kept pointing frontwards but life is easier if the CG is well forward of the AC (li; /html/land-speed/2004-01/msg00048.html (7,745 bytes)

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