- 1. Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Paul and Meredith Brown <racers@rt66.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:04:18 -0600
- I was at first very opposed to this idea, since it would tend to destabilize things, I can't see it changing the competitive situation (already "dominant" cars are just as likely to benefit as those
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01317.html (8,664 bytes)
- 2. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:37:30 -0500
- A front driver which has less of a willingness to lift a rear tire, such as a Saturn, would benefit greatly from a larger rear bar. Any front driver with NO rear bar (there are a bunch of them thrown
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01322.html (8,533 bytes)
- 3. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: "Mark J. Andy" <marka@telerama.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:10:22 -0400 (EDT)
- And this wouldn't upset the current classing structure? Probably the main difference between a DS neon and an ES neon is the rear bar... (Yes, there are other differences. No the DOHC isn't that big
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01327.html (8,065 bytes)
- 4. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: "Justin Hughes" <ka1ult@channel1.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:55:07 -0400
- If you mean that it would give another car a decent chance to keep up with a Neon, then I say yes, it would upset it, and that's a good thing. I don't hate Neons - I have a healthy respect for them,
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01331.html (9,460 bytes)
- 5. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: "Mark J. Andy" <marka@telerama.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:06:49 -0400 (EDT)
- My point was that it would make an ES neon (potentially) as fast as a DS neon... thereby blowing the other ES cars outta the water. Much as I like neons and spec classes, I think having _two_ neon d
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01333.html (8,910 bytes)
- 6. RE: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: "Tharpe, Joe" <JoeT@ryersoncoil.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:22:57 -0500
- Don't forget the new 99 Civic SI. The SI has the rear bar and if allowed to play with the rear bar then it should be able to run with the R/T Neons and the ES Neons. And possible threat the ACR Neons
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01335.html (10,242 bytes)
- 7. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: "Justin Hughes" <ka1ult@channel1.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:31:57 -0400
- Guess I kinda missed your point the first time, but I get it now. :) From my perspective, this change would make it possible for other cars to keep right up with the Neons, preventing complete Neon
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01336.html (8,565 bytes)
- 8. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Scott Meyers <solo2@uswest.net>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:33:31 -0700
- Obviously you've forgotten that E Stock will now be dominated by the blazingly fast previous H Stock cars that beat the best E Stock times three Nationals in a row. The ES Neons will need this rear b
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01337.html (8,481 bytes)
- 9. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Scott Meyers <solo2@uswest.net>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:40:24 -0700
- Me either - but, I can think of no specific example of where allowing folks to add a front or rear bar of their choice to the existing stock cars would upset *any* applecart. It MAY allow some otherw
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01338.html (9,527 bytes)
- 10. Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Sam & Greg Scharnberg <samandgreg@worldnet.att.net>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:54:24 -0500
- I am on vacation this week and have, against my better judgement, reverted to reading the team.net digest. The rear sway bar thread has been going on for over a week and I wanted to throw in my 2 ce
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01339.html (10,488 bytes)
- 11. RE: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Phil Osborne <posborne@minuteman-ups.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:10:50 -0500
- Good excuse to move them all to DStock... Howdy, My point was that it would make an ES neon (potentially) as fast as a DS neon... thereby blowing the other ES cars outta the water. Much as I like neo
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01341.html (9,683 bytes)
- 12. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: washburn <washburn@dwave.net>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:24:36 -0500
- I will say this about the Neon spec class...it may be boring to watch, but if you really want to know where you stand as a driver it's the best place to go, IMO. It's not boring when your in the car,
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01344.html (9,383 bytes)
- 13. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Scott Meyers <solo2@uswest.net>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:49:59 -0700
- Nascar suffered when Dodge pulled out. It was very *interesting* as well as exciting to watch Chevy, Ford and Dodge duke it out every race. Most boring to watch or follow? A herd of same cars race af
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01345.html (9,669 bytes)
- 14. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: "Justin Hughes" <ka1ult@channel1.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:11:38 -0400
- An excellent point - as we all know, a great driver in a Yugo could beat a bad driver in a Neon. Kind of like IROC (the series, not the Camaro), it's a true judge of who the best driver is, since mo
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01346.html (10,809 bytes)
- 15. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:22:12 -0500
- I wasn't the one who claimed it wouldn't upset things, that was Paul and/or Meredith. I was just feeding off of that statement. As far as Neons go, "open" rear swaybars could help equalize the Neons,
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01349.html (9,383 bytes)
- 16. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Scott Meyers <solo2@uswest.net>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:46:41 -0700
- I'm not sure - did you just agree with me? And your shocks cost how much? :-) Hey, in D Stock you can get outdriven and outspent - two for one! Scott Meyers
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01353.html (8,782 bytes)
- 17. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: Markdaddio@aol.com
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:12:45 EDT
- << Hey, in D Stock you can get outdriven and outspent - two for one! >> You might be a little disappointed to know that I have far less money into my neon, including the cost of the car and all modif
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01358.html (8,131 bytes)
- 18. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: washburn <washburn@dwave.net>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:26:29 -0500
- Don't have to. I ran my first Nationals in a borrowed Miata in '97, finishing mid-pack in a class of 62 (I think). Just as tough to win in a spec class there as in a Neon. Neon, Miata, whatever...the
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01359.html (8,303 bytes)
- 19. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: washburn <washburn@dwave.net>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:45:34 -0500
- Ca, ca. The shocks cost me a very small sum. The car came with Koni's and the re-valving was not significant at all. I'm so freakin' tight with my AX dollars, there is no way I would go the long yard
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01362.html (8,345 bytes)
- 20. Re: Rear sway bars in stock (score: 1)
- Author: "Eric Linnhoff" <eric10mm@qni.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:16:30 -0700
- single == Umm, yeah, I think so. ;^) driver do just == $575 + shipping. :^P == The outspent part I can match, it's the outdriving part that gives me fits. ;^) At least I can't be outspent _that_ muc
- /html/autox/1999-10/msg01368.html (9,048 bytes)
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