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21. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: Randy Noll <rnoll98@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:31:25 -0800 (PST)
Navid has a good point. Anyone can go bum a ride off someone in the first run group if they ask nice. Unless it becomes a mob, which I highly doubt, it really isn't a problem, or unobtainable (unfai
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00382.html (11,680 bytes)

22. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: Rich Urschel <OSP13@attglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:56:23 -0800
I do. Change from: 15.Passengers: Passengers are allowed at any time within the limits set in the SCCA National Solo II Rules Section 1.4. Any entrant may ride as a passenger at any time without pena
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00383.html (8,531 bytes)

23. RE: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: "Kelly, Katie" <kkelly@spss.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:09:46 -0800
This is ambiguous. Novice is easy to define, but "experienced driver," and "other driver," how do you define that? Katie I do. Change from: 15.Passengers: Passengers are allowed at any time within th
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00384.html (8,919 bytes)

24. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: Rich Urschel <OSP13@attglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:34:02 -0800
Non-novice. Rich Urschel
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00385.html (8,169 bytes)

25. RE: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: "Kelly, Katie" <kkelly@spss.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:39:03 -0800
Meaning, we all can ride as passengers... ? Katie driver," Non-novice. Rich Urschel
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00386.html (8,457 bytes)

26. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:41:27 -0800
i say let them all ride. does any veteran autocrosser gain any advantage from riding? i never agree with what anyone else does when they are driving anyway. so i doubt it makes any difference. -james
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00387.html (12,219 bytes)

27. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: Rich Urschel <OSP13@attglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:42:31 -0800
Yes, but not before taking your competition runs unless you are a Novice or are instructing a Novice. Rich
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00388.html (8,821 bytes)

28. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: craig boyle <craig_autox@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:56:29 -0800 (PST)
While I like you're wording, there are so many other ways to "gain an unfair advantage" at a local event, fixing the passenger rule is just one. For example: a) Sandbagging b) Line jumping (returning
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00389.html (9,386 bytes)

29. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@home.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:49:43 -0800
Let's not get too close on this, as it's very difficult to police or enforce. How does anyone know when those "instructional" runs were given? As the scorer, I have my ways to discovering when folks
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00390.html (9,839 bytes)

30. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: Rich Urschel <OSP13@attglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:14:39 -0800
We can enforce this rule of competition like all others, Pat; only if a protest if filed. The protest committee can listen to the protester, protestee, and witnesses, and then decide. One "yes", one
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00392.html (8,496 bytes)

31. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@home.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:10:56 -0800
I think the need for even-handed rules is to keep it fun. --Pat K --
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00393.html (10,187 bytes)

32. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: "Jerry Mouton" <jerry@moutons.org>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:26:38 -0800
Maybe I'd reword it to emphasize the National rule, for ease of protest. Like: I might vote for that. This allows for instructor rides with non-novices, and allows the protest committee to make a ju
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00394.html (9,666 bytes)

33. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: Rich Urschel <OSP13@attglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:32:17 -0800
This is no change to the current rule. Convince me that any single one of us can't learn something from any other single one of us. Otherwise, all rides are instructional. Experienced drivers can sti
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00395.html (9,033 bytes)

34. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@home.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:28:56 -0800
The last time there was a protest? No one likes to do that...it'll never happen. Of course, oth, filing a protest is a learning experience. :) --Pat K --
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00396.html (9,047 bytes)

35. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: Rich Urschel <OSP13@attglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:45:28 -0800
There were two protests the last time I chaired an SFR event! Rules get enforced privately between friendly competitors. Lack of protests does not mean lack of enforcement. Rich
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00397.html (8,279 bytes)

36. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: "Jake Hodges" <jake_hodges@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:05:54 +0000
Someone mentioned they wanted to hear a Novice's opinion on the topic. Well, I'm a novice and I have an opinion, although it's totally unrelated and cannot further this discussion in any way whatsoev
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00398.html (10,607 bytes)

37. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@home.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:06:36 -0800
The Volvo driver is Dick Bishop, and everyone should watch his runs, even from outside that big highway cruiser, it's very instructional. Pay attention, class! And a star for Jake right on his forehe
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00399.html (11,634 bytes)

38. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:24:00 -0800 (PST)
Craig, this is the second time you've mentioned this in this thread. I don't know if you're aware, but the *correct* procedure after a driver has been granted a rerun is for them to pull up outside t
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00401.html (8,608 bytes)

39. Re: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:30:29 -0800 (PST)
Your objective is inconsistent with your observation. ;) KeS
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00402.html (8,190 bytes)

40. RE: SFR rule (score: 1)
Author: "Navid Kahangi" <navid@interwoven.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:29:26 -0800
I have refused giving rides to people many times. All you need to say is "sorry, I'm trying to make this one count." Nobody will think you are rude. As for being sneaky, would you feel the same way
/html/ba-autox/2001-11/msg00403.html (12,146 bytes)


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