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1. Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: "DrMayf" <drmayf@teknett.com>; Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:28:36 -0800; Scoop Openings. Well, we have all heard the hypothesis that the scoop opening should be sized to permit a column of air at such and such speed to enter the engine and fulfil it's needs. On the surfac; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00494.html (10,731 bytes)
2. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: "Richard Fox" <v4gr@rcn.com>; Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:19:45 -0800; Mayf; I am a subscriber to the column of air theory because I heard it from the Hofman/Markley group who seem to know what they are doing. That said the resulting opening seems way to small for the s; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00495.html (11,792 bytes)
3. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:26:19 -0800 (PST); This is scary! I understood what you said, Mayf. I've got thoughts (questions) from a real layman's position. Besides everything you said, what about the simple turbulence caused by the edges of the; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00496.html (12,655 bytes)
4. RE: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:16:38 -0600; Maybe a variable- area inlet is what is needed. ...works on an SR-71; that goes pretty fast. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ Scoop Openings. Well, we have all heard the hypothesis that the scoop opening sho; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00510.html (11,534 bytes)
5. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:20:01 -0800; Interesting musings! I think that you are on to something, though. I had started this thread a few weeks ago relating my problems with negative pressures (-9.7 in H2O) in my scoop at above 6000 rpm.; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00517.html (13,056 bytes)
6. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: jkamo <jkamo@home.com>; Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:46:16 -0700; Tom, many folks are focused on the "opening" area, how much thought is going into the "VOLUME" of the said intake scoop, or as I like to think of it, the "air box"??? Joe /// unsubscribe/change addre; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00525.html (13,778 bytes)
7. RE: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: Higginbotham Land Speed Racing <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:09:27 -0600; As usual you have hit the nail squarely on the head. Now......how to vary the inlet size AND the size of the diffuser. (Air Box as Joe has suggested). If all that can be done in direct relationship; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00532.html (13,087 bytes)
8. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: W S Potter <wester6935@attbi.com>; Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 08:26:08 -0800; So you are talking about using the same technology that raises an airfoil on the rear of a car as it accelerates to close openings to the plenum as speed increases and air flow changes? Like the thr; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00533.html (9,955 bytes)
9. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: Skip Higginbotham <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:03:28 -0600; Yep! Something just like that! Could even do it using impact air pressure to mechanically change it.....no electronics tho! Skip /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00536.html (10,265 bytes)
10. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: rtmack <RTMACK@pop3.concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 04:14:02 -0600; I think we should have a rule that the driver must adjust it manually-- although he could have a speedometer to give him the appropriate data. Russ /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordo; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00549.html (10,504 bytes)
11. RE: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:16:40 -0600; As the old saying goes "To a man who only has a hammer, everything looks like a nail." Since I'm in the electronics game (it is a game-- fun, too!), I'll suggest using an electronic approach which c; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00586.html (10,296 bytes)
12. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>; Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:27:07 -0500; I personally fail to see how this is going to make the car faster. maybe I am missing something? How do you propose to change the size of the opening dynamically, not the actuator method but the inle; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00600.html (11,238 bytes)
13. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: rtmack <RTMACK@pop3.concentric.net>; Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:23:00 -0600; actually, I think it would be silly to require the driver to adjust it manually. I just said that to irritate Skip-- and he made a point of ignoring the comment. (I guess he wins this round.) Russ /; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00601.html (10,866 bytes)
14. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: Skip Higginbotham <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:45:21 -0600; Actually, I didn't ignore the comment....I was......considering it.......Having considered it.....I don't think it is a good idea for an already busy driver. (-: (Assuming the driver is busy.....) I; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00602.html (11,643 bytes)
15. RE: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:09:36 -0600; Take a look at the SR-71 inlet. Alternatively, take a look at the variable nozzle on the tail- end of an F-16. It looks possible to do something like either of those approaches without adding drag a; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00603.html (11,723 bytes)
16. RE: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:12:21 -0600; Well, in LSR racing, a driver's left foot isn't doing anything-- maybe he could control the inlet with it so he doesn't have to let go of the steering wheel. :) Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ --Original M; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00604.html (10,973 bytes)
17. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: rtmack <RTMACK@pop3.concentric.net>; Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:36:44 -0600; My left foot has to ride the clutch because traction control is illegal. Guess I'll have to improve the dexterity in some other appendage. Russ /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@a; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00605.html (10,487 bytes)
18. RE: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:54:58 -0600; Hmmm....... that trick might make you very popular on dates! Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ --Original Message-- From: rtmack [mailto:RTMACK@pop3.concentric.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:37 AM To; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00606.html (10,479 bytes)
19. Re: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: rtmack <RTMACK@pop3.concentric.net>; Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:06:14 -0600; actually, I was thinking this might open the door for a Viagra sponsorship. Russ /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00608.html (10,283 bytes)
20. RE: Scoop Openings Revisited..... (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:37:39 -0600; It might make for stiff competition ot there on the Salt. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ --Original Message-- From: rtmack [mailto:RTMACK@pop3.concentric.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:06 PM To: A; /html/land-speed/2002-01/msg00609.html (8,170 bytes)

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