- 1. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: "Jeff Winchell" <Jeff@Winchell.Com>
- Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:37:24 -0800
- How many times have you seen a car upside down at an autocross in those 13 years (and roughly how many cars haven't done that)? From what I've been able to gather, thousands of autocross entries have
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- 2. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: RacerRay52@aol.com
- Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:40:57 EST
- << How many times have you seen a car upside down at an autocross in those 13 years (and roughly how many cars haven't done that)? From what I've been able to gather, thousands of autocross entries h
- /html/autox/1999-04/msg00011.html (8,468 bytes)
- 3. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: Paul Foster <pfoster@gdi.net>
- Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:18:34 -0500
- Then Jeff Winchell responded: <<<How many times have you seen a car upside down at an autocross in those 13 years (and roughly how many cars haven't done that)? From what I've been able to gather, th
- /html/autox/1999-04/msg00064.html (9,703 bytes)
- 4. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: "Jeff Winchell" <Jeff@Winchell.Com>
- Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:03:26 -0800
- If you take the very low percentage of the flip multiplied by the very low percentage of it being at the wrong time and place, you have such low odds that it's not worth considering, IMO. Quite a fe
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- 5. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: RacerRay52@aol.com
- Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:07:25 EST
- << > BTW, in our area there have been quite a few Quite a few would be 3 or 4? What number? Then compare that to odds of this happening in general driving on the streets. >> .........................
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- 6. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: Jay Mitchell <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
- Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:09:16 -0800
- IF statistics were available - e.g., mishaps per vehicle mile or per vehicle hour - for Solo II incidents, it might be possible to make a definitive statement regarding incident probability and the n
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- 7. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: RacerRay52@aol.com
- Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:50:00 EST
- << I can name more than one situation in which sites were lost because of accidents at Solo II events. Given that we are not being deluged by site owners begging us to help wear out their pavement, i
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- 8. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: "Jeff Winchell" <Jeff@Winchell.Com>
- Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:27:13 -0800
- That's easy. Just don't have an autocross. I would think it's obvious that extremes are silly, but reading so many messages about people worrying that one roll over in 13 years (or similar statistic
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- 9. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: Jay Mitchell <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
- Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:45:11 -0800
- Glad you brought that up, because I've been making some estimates to come up with an approximate statistical model. Must have been those statistical mechanics courses in grad. school. Bear with me, i
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- 10. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: Hottvr@aol.com
- Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:26:58 EST
- I can't say what I really want too for fear of taking more BS locally. My to this forum have caused a lot of problems. I will say however that I guess a lot of it depends on what you call an "Inciden
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- 11. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: "Jeff Winchell" <Jeff@Winchell.Com>
- Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:47:59 -0800
- Since perception by the site owner seems to be the relevant statistic, then miles is the wrong metric. Time is a better one. Is there more information on this, or was this the sole significant facto
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- 12. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: Jay Mitchell <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
- Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:13:37 -0800
- According to YOUR speculation, the statistical risk associated with autox is negligible compared to street driving. I came up with a model, now you're dodging the issue. How many accidents per vehicl
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- 13. Re: Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: "Jeff Winchell" <Jeff@Winchell.Com>
- Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:39:11 -0800
- I'm not dodging the issue. I'll repeat this again ...miles is the wrong unit of measure for this. What site was this? What is the sample size? Once again, I'm not dodging the issue. None of the even
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- 14. Spins & Blame (score: 1)
- Author: Benjamin D Thatcher <bthatch@juno.com>
- Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:58:02 -0500
- OK, OK, I've gone and done it again. I periodically get involved with a discussion on this forum and the written word once again is unable to convey the true meaning of what I'm trying to say. Some o
- /html/autox/1999-03/msg01880.html (8,003 bytes)
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