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1. Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:03:42 -0400; Due to a computer crash at work I lost the message from a helpful lister who told me that he replaces all of his bolts, screws etc as he gets to them with grade 8 stainless steel replacements. A coup; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01271.html (7,538 bytes)
2. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:33:36 EDT; Stainless steel is not as strong as 'other' steel' and grade 8 has been known to be brittle. Be careful what you are using these fasteners for. Daniel1312 << Due to a computer crash at work I lost th; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01273.html (7,488 bytes)
3. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:29:49 EDT; - - - - - - - - - - - - Well, grade 8 is not stainless steel, and I wouldn't replace "all" of the hardware with either of those types. I use grade 5 when replacing grade 5 and sometimes when replacin; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01283.html (8,380 bytes)
4. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:52:07 EDT; We have had quite a discussion about this on several occasions on the list. Generally I agree with Alan, but there is a consideration that makes me think replacing with Grade 8 is sound. While the Gr; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01308.html (8,991 bytes)
5. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:31:33 -0500; <<...but there is a consideration that makes me think replacing with Grade 8 is sound>> Gee, DC, when did you get to be a Registered Phys. Engineer/Designer from Detroit(USA)/England/Italy/France/Kor; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01310.html (7,807 bytes)
6. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 01 21:00:02 EDT; The thing I'd still be concerned about is a sudden, sharp blow. While the Grade 8 ratings may be good, remember that it is more "brittle". Loads put on smoothly and gradually may be plenty survivabl; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01312.html (7,880 bytes)
7. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:39:38 EDT; Like I said, Ed. I am not an engineer. I am getting stats from a fastner manual and from a very fascinating workshop on fasteners conducted by Bowman at the Indianapolis Conclave summer before last.; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01313.html (7,778 bytes)
8. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:43:31 -0700; Did your cat tell you that? Did he mean the concrete or the tool steel? Paul A; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01314.html (8,123 bytes)
9. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:45:20 EDT; Looking at the Bowman manual, yes, the torque values are greater. An SAE Grade 5 7/16" Hex head cap screw is torqued at 49 lb. dry, the Bowmalloy 7/16" is torqued at 98 lb. dry. --David C.; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01315.html (7,940 bytes)
10. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:49:56 EDT; That is possible to Ed. I am not an Engineer or pretend ot be, but the values, plus the comments made by the Bowman representative seem to confirm what I surmised. But as I understand the Bowmalloy b; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01316.html (7,869 bytes)
11. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:57:54 EDT; True, Ed. That is a consideration for sure. That is why I said I generally agreed with Alan. I don't want anyone mistaking me for an expert in these matters. I was quoting the tensile strength figure; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01317.html (8,047 bytes)
12. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:06:55 -0400; How about an article on why this is so? I keep hearing "because they're more brittle" but more info would be nice for the non-ME. Also, I've noticed that a lot of times on some of these auto shows on; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01322.html (8,869 bytes)
13. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 03:20:38 EDT; I bet they are a much bigger fastener. The definitive book on this is by Carrol Smith and well worth a read. The ARP bolts catalogue also has a lot of detail in it. Daniel13122 << grade 8 fasteners a; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01329.html (7,724 bytes)
14. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:41:34 EDT; - - - - - - - - - - Thanks for the info Dave. Since you have numbers to back you up, I'll take your word for it. And it was a good explanation. BTW, I worked for Bowman for about a year doing sales.; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01335.html (8,907 bytes)
15. Re: Taps dies etc. v.2 (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:11:26 EDT; I don't think so, Daniel. I think the increased strength comes from the alloy used and the method used to make them. They have a dimensions chart in the manual but do not differentiate between Bowmal; /html/spridgets/2001-09/msg01365.html (7,761 bytes)

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