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1. Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: Rikrock@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:50:52 EST
I would like to test a batch of new lifters and I have some questions about the process... I presume the correct thing to do is Rockwell Hardness test them. I have access to the equipment to do the
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00042.html (7,522 bytes)

2. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: Rikrock@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:07:56 EST
Seems to me the test will leave a dimple that must be polished out before the lifter can be used. I would prefer to test the base of the lifter, but the idea of polishing out the dimple on the base m
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00078.html (8,195 bytes)

3. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: Rikrock@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 05:30:48 EST
Lifters, however, are supposed to be flat--not domed. You takes your choice--rollers or flat. Nothing in between. Flat is good, domed is bad. Flat rotates, domed or dished stalls and wears. The new l
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00080.html (7,916 bytes)

4. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: "Jack W. Drews" <vinttr4@geneseo.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 08:33:01 -0600
I find it easy to polish off the edges of the resulting Rockwell testing dimple using a stone like you use to sharpen a knife. You can eliminate the little dimple edges without much damage to the sur
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00085.html (8,689 bytes)

5. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: "SHANE Ingate" <hottr6@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:14:41 -0500
It seems to me that Rockwell testing does not take into account the "depth" of hardening. The dimple test does not probe further than a ten-thous or so below the surface. Eg, chilled and nitrided ma
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00087.html (8,254 bytes)

6. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: "Scott Janzen" <s.janzen@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:52:32 -0500
TSI - Ted Shumacher's outfit in Ohio, also offers the same service of testing and resurfacing the lifters. You are supporting a good Triumph parts supplier this way! == unsubscribe/change address req
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00097.html (7,667 bytes)

7. RE: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:53:53 -0800
89! How about 92MM? I suspect it's not guilty silence--just that no one has an answer. I haven't done any NDT testing other than Magnaflux and dye penetrant in twenty years. I recall that we always w
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00098.html (7,874 bytes)

8. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: Larry Young <larry.young@pobox.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:11:14 -0600
I've talked to Steve at Integral cams also, nice guy. Triumph lifters were originally flat, and many that I've taken apart show the lifters were not rotating. As Greg Solow has dicussed several times
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00101.html (8,601 bytes)

9. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: N197TR4@cs.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:48:38 EST
Yup! If I remember my heat treat equipment, there is a Rockwell "B" scale that employs a ball rather the sharp point as in Rockwell "C". Kind of smaller version of Brinnell Hardness Testing as used i
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00105.html (8,379 bytes)

10. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: N197TR4@cs.com
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:26:54 EST
I dont remember 15N from 45 years ago. I do remember (now) using the B scale on softer material. Thanks, Joe (A) == unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00113.html (8,453 bytes)

11. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: <triumph_marx@freenet.de>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:48:08 +0100
Why not Vickers Hardness testing? That pyramide leaves a very small dimple in the surface. My lifters are a little domed. I think I let them regrind to a flat surface and nitrate hardened. Chris == u
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00120.html (8,028 bytes)

12. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: chasgee@aol.com
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:33:36 -0500
I don't feel that nitriding is the way to go with lifters. Using a good material with high through hardness (like a tool steel or ceramic) is better. No spalling of the hardened surface which leads t
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00121.html (8,426 bytes)

13. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: chasgee@aol.com
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:23:22 -0500
Test the lifter using Rockwell Superficial Hardness Scale 15N. The B scale is much lower hardness than the C scale and all you will do is ruin the B indentor ball. Test the lifter on the diameter as
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00122.html (8,402 bytes)

14. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: <triumph_marx@freenet.de>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 19:58:33 +0100
I agree with bill. With a domed lifter surface there are two bad effects: 1. You get less spinning of the lifter which rises the wear 2. You reduce the contact surface which rises the pressure and wi
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00126.html (8,143 bytes)

15. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: chasgee@aol.com
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:50:21 -0500
Usually Vickers hardness is performed on a polished cross-section taken from the part. Less load, smaller indention, but definitely destructive. == unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@au
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00129.html (7,635 bytes)

16. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: <triumph_marx@freenet.de>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:01:36 +0100
There is no need for a polished surface. A flat surface is suitable. To test a lifter you can test close to the edge of the bottom surface, outside the plain where the cam is running on. I made thous
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00136.html (7,865 bytes)

17. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:31:13 -0800
If you do not have a Micro-flat in your shop remember that a nice piece of heavy plate glass will be a very good substitute. Any glass shop about $6 bucks. == unsubscribe/change address requests to m
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00143.html (7,504 bytes)

18. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: chasgee@aol.com
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:59:51 -0500
Good, someone with experience! Over here in the US, Vickers macro hardness testers are not that common anymore. We use the Vickers scale primarily for microhardness and the various Rockwell scales fo
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00144.html (7,433 bytes)

19. Re: Testing Lifters? (score: 1)
Author: <triumph_marx@freenet.de>
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:34:44 +0100
There is small load hardness testing possible with Vickers. The testing load is around 1-20N and is leaving a very small dimple on the surface. But you need a microscope unit to measure the imprint.
/html/fot/2006-01/msg00154.html (7,540 bytes)


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