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1. The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: Joe Ciarcia <veloimpreza@yahoo.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:27:29 -0800 (PST); I'm sure this thread title will attract some colorful responses from this oh so serious crowd <hehe>. Seriously though, what do you think is the hardest skill to master in autox? After reading a post; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00157.html (8,649 bytes)
2. Re: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "Scot Zediker" <roadsterboy@earthlink.net>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:39:19 -0800; I'll agree with you on this one. Braking technique was the toughest thing for me to figure out on an autocross course. It took awhile before I figured out I was better off losing a little time by bra; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00159.html (9,740 bytes)
3. Re:The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "Richard Urschel" <osp13@mybluelight.com>; Date: 10 Dec 2002 20:50:11 -0000; On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:27:29 -0800 (PST) Joe Ciarcia <veloimpreza@yahoo.com> Restraint on the email list. YMMV. Rich Urschel Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.Blue; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00161.html (7,893 bytes)
4. Re: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:52:33 -0800; take a run without using the brakes. braking is overrated anyway- you are using them, what, like 10% of the time? i never bother upgrading or doing much to my brakes. nor do i worry about braking- 90; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00162.html (10,129 bytes)
5. Re: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:52:09 -0800 (PST); The least costly mistake you can make in autocross is braking too soon. The most costly mistake you can make in autocross is braking too late. That being said, my best advice is to understand that th; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00163.html (9,385 bytes)
6. RE: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "Herman Ip" <racer188@netzero.net>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:54:17 -0800; For me the hardest thing to master is telling myself to look ahead. No matter how many times I tell myself, once I hit the throttle the concept is completely gone. Another I need to master is how to; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00164.html (9,900 bytes)
7. RE: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "MrPepsi(Brent Johnson)" <Soloii@mrpepsi.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:56:59 -0800; I would have to say that as my abilities progress, the challenges change. I am a rookie still, as I have yet to compete one full year. I competed last year about 75%. So at this point I would have to; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00165.html (10,489 bytes)
8. RE: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:04:19 -0800; Timing of braking is hard. Keeping steering input smooth & slow is also hard.; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00166.html (8,771 bytes)
9. RE: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "Kirk Meline" <kirkm@zeta-idt.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:16:53 -0800; Take the fuse out of your ABS and learn the right way? Then you'll know the limits of your brakes before ABS confuses your foot. I always see people with ABS just slam it to the floor every corner. T; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00168.html (10,327 bytes)
10. Re: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:13:22 -0800; Agreed! We get teased because we still have drum brakes on the 7. Well, we're not going fast enough to use them all that much, usually to set the car. Plus drums are lighter than discs and weight is; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00170.html (11,357 bytes)
11. RE: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: Ms Katie Kelly <aceontour@yahoo.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:38:21 -0800 (PST); If it makes you feel any better, I've been autocrossing 17 years, and I still don't know what the right line is. And I don't know when to brake. I can't walk a course and figure it out. The more I tr; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00171.html (10,181 bytes)
12. Re: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: Toy4speed@aol.com; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:51:57 EST; Personally, it was getting more comfortable going fast in the fast sections. Not the straights, mind you, but the sorta straights with a kink or bend or sorta sweeper. Maybe just me, but staying on t; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00173.html (8,700 bytes)
13. Re: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:14:38 -0800; staying on the gas is what ALLOWS the car to "stick". :) -james sections. or; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00174.html (9,323 bytes)
14. RE: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: Joe Ciarcia <veloimpreza@yahoo.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:24:51 -0800 (PST); Oh so tempting... perhaps I'll try that on some fun runs but... the STX rules don't allow for disabling the ABS. It's definitely been something that I've wanted to try. My Falkens are getting close t; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00175.html (9,850 bytes)
15. Re: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:25:00 -0800 (PST); Really? Are they lighter avoirdupois, or do they have less rotational inertia, or both? I'd have thought drums heavier all around than disks. KeS; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00176.html (8,984 bytes)
16. Re: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: Toy4speed@aol.com; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:28:53 EST; Yes, in my low powered DSP car , throttle oversteer isn't so much a problem. It's the sudden OMIGOD there's a bend ahead that causes my right foot to act stupid, let up a bit too much.... and were lo; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00177.html (9,381 bytes)
17. RE: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:37:01 -0800 (PST); I disagree strongly with Kirk. First of all, I don't drive that way (with ABS), and none of the fast guys I know (with ABS) do that. It doesn't work; both because you get the ABS all fouled up, and f; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00178.html (9,912 bytes)
18. RE: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: Ms Katie Kelly <aceontour@yahoo.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:57:11 -0800 (PST); I don't recommend this ALL the time, but if you really want to teach yourself how to look ahead, try doing a couple of events without walking the course. -Katie; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00179.html (8,764 bytes)
19. Re: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:58:13 -0800; Really...the discs for a 7 are heavier, plus discs are designed to drag on the rotor, friction, slowing the car down. Drums don't drag, only when you hit the brake pedal (sometimes!). :) And I believ; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00180.html (9,722 bytes)
20. RE: The hardest autox skill? (score: 1): Author: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>; Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:09:03 -0800; I always wondered why Panoz disabled the ABS in the Roadster & Esperante. Now I know -- they are using Ford brakes! <G> The bias they dialed in is OK but since no pavement is perfectly flat nor is a; /html/ba-autox/2002-12/msg00181.html (9,192 bytes)

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