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1. RE: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: Theo Smit <TSMIT@isotel.com>; Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:33:13 -0600; Hi Bud, and Listers, I agree with you, I just think that the largest difference comes from removing the top, not from removing the element - especially if you're using the K&N element instead of the; /html/tigers/2000-05/msg00260.html (6,325 bytes)
2. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: Steve Laifman <Laifman@flash.net>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:48:58 -0700; Larry, If you are 'breathing' that heavily that you need more surface area, you can still use your stock air cleaners. The issue would be using the same K&N filter element diameter, but taller. This; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00222.html (9,434 bytes)
3. RE: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: "Wright, Larry" <larry.wright@usop.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:14:17 -0500; Thanks, Steve. What I had been thinking about sorta followed that line, but with a twist. How about a drop-down base that allowed the stock (or in my case, LAT2) top, and doubled "stock size" element; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00223.html (9,094 bytes)
4. RE: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: Theo Smit <TSMIT@isotel.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:30:15 -0600; Hi Larry, Since you don't have a LAT hood, one option is to use or make a snorkel adapter, where you run one or two 3" hoses to the horn vent holes, to plumb into one or a pair of filters that sit ah; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00224.html (7,957 bytes)
5. RE: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: "Wright, Larry" <larry.wright@usop.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:38:40 -0500; (SNIP) Thanks. I think I've seen something like the carb fitting you describe, but cannot recall if it was aftermarket, or OEM on some car. Filters ahead of the radiator? Once the trunking had been p; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00225.html (8,192 bytes)
6. RE: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: Theo Smit <TSMIT@isotel.com>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:42:07 -0600; Hey, c'mon now, you don't _have_ to paint it yellow... -Theo; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00226.html (8,728 bytes)
7. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: TIGEROOTES@aol.com; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:54:12 EDT; Many years ago I had the same idea and I tried it on my 67 Sunbeam Minx. Chrysler cheapened the Series 6 by eliminating the footwell fresh air vents, and it seemed simple enough to install the same 4; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00232.html (8,169 bytes)
8. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: CoolVT@aol.com; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:49:24 EDT; Hot Rod magazine a few months back had a good article on building a ram air system for a typical car at a cost of about $50. It was fairly simple because a standard air cleaner was used and the pipin; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00237.html (7,858 bytes)
9. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: "Alex MacLaurin" <Alex_MacLaurin@telus.net>; Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:05:45 -0700; I recently had both our Tiger And Shelby on the dyno and tested with air filters on an off. The Tiger had a 9" K&N and the Shelby had a 14" K&N. The tiger gained 19.2 hp and 26.4 lbs torque with no f; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00239.html (8,791 bytes)
10. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: Larry Paulick <larry.p@erols.com>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:46:19 -0400; Alex, what is the open mesh top K&N, and is this a separate filter housing for the Tiger? Looked in Summit and did not see. Thanks Larry; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00243.html (7,940 bytes)
11. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: Steve Laifman <Laifman@flash.net>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:23:40 -0700; Alex, Those are amazing figures, I could get a major horsepower increase by removing the bolt holding the air cleaner and take it off. A shorter engine life is nothing much different if power levels; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00244.html (9,275 bytes)
12. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: "Alex MacLaurin" <Alex_MacLaurin@telus.net>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:34:15 -0700; Hi Larry-K&N introduced an open mesh filter top approx. 2 years ago and almost immediately took them off the market because the top would collapse under pressure. K&N subsequently redid their constuc; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00245.html (8,702 bytes)
13. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: "Alex MacLaurin" <Alex_MacLaurin@telus.net>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:40:52 -0700; Steve-I think your analogy is correct. Subsequent to the dyno test, I am now trying to get the maximum amount of air possible into this engine, by fitting the largest, least restrictive filter that w; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00246.html (10,190 bytes)
14. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: James Barrett <jamesbrt@mindspring.com>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:07:43 -0400; The question is, what were the HP and Torque figures at what RPM? Was this a 10% improvement or less? James Barrett Tiger II 351C and others; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00252.html (8,475 bytes)
15. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: "Alex MacLaurin" <Alex_MacLaurin@telus.net>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:43:25 -0700; Jim-Max. hp was 319.3 at 6700 with air cleaner off, and 301.1 with air cleaner on at 6600 rpm.Max torque was 281.4 lbs at 5300 with air cleaner off and 255lbs at 4750 rpm's with air cleaner on. Alex; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00255.html (8,924 bytes)
16. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: Theo Smit <tsmit@home.com>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:10:26 -0600; Hi all (all of you that haven't abandoned this discussion) I was reading the K&N website info some more and they mention that they compute the rated flow capability of their filters based on 1.5" H2O; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00261.html (8,494 bytes)
17. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: "Alex MacLaurin" <Alex_MacLaurin@telus.net>; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:23:23 -0700; Following that line of reasoning,I sure hope adding an open mesh top will allow sufficient air to go directly down the top of the carb.Alex; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00264.html (9,140 bytes)
18. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: Bob Palmer <rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu>; Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:34:36 -0700; It's interesting to also compare the pressure drop to the flow needed by engine. Just starting with round numbers, a 300 cu. in. engine turning 6,000 rpm would pull in 521 cu. ft. per minute; that's; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00270.html (9,363 bytes)
19. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: CoolVT@aol.com; Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:44:55 EDT; A recent issue of Hot Rod has an ad from a company that builds air cleaners with two horns for a forced induction. They offer a wide range of diameters, hts. and angles between the horns. The price a; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00272.html (7,580 bytes)
20. Re: Air Cleaners (score: 1): Author: Craig Wright <craig@productdesigngroup.com>; Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:52:52 -0700; Hello Bob, Actually modern stock engines have a volumetric efficiency of about 80%-85%, mildly built (your engine) will approach 100%, and a fully tuned race engine can get to 105%-108%. Those higher; /html/tigers/2000-04/msg00274.html (11,213 bytes)

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