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1. next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: JNiolon@uss.com; Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 14:49:42 -0500; I'm considering joining the high speed internet world... I see ads for cable access and for bellsouth DSL... what's the difference in speed, connectivity, necessary equipment ? I understand the cable; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00127.html (8,397 bytes)
2. RE: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Randall Young <ryoung@NAVCOMTECH.COM>; Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 14:01:20 -0700; John, the equipment required is very similar. Either way will need a network card installed in the computer and an external box with a power cord. Depending on who does the installation, DSL can eith; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00131.html (10,024 bytes)
3. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: "John Viviani" <geeno@adelphia.net>; Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 19:47:43 -0400; I use a cable modem now. I won't name the service but if you are smart enough to be on this list you can figure it out. I am told by Linksys (I use their wireless router, their network card, their mo; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00133.html (9,868 bytes)
4. RE: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Scott Hall <sch8489@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>; Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:32:35 -0400 (EDT); the guy at the local two-guy computer shop told me just the opposite--with dsl you 'share' x amount of bandwidth and how fast your connection depends on how many other users are active on your line a; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00134.html (9,957 bytes)
5. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: William Hook <wghook@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 19:21:09 -0700; Although this is not technically a cable vrs DSL reply, I would like to add that I added DSL at my office through earthlink last January. It took about two months to get the modem, and the local phon; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00135.html (9,398 bytes)
6. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: David Cole <dgcole01@bellsouth.net>; Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:31:56 -0500; I have the Bellsouth DSL. Been on it for about 9 months. Very pleased overall. Have had a couple of outages that were fixed promptly, but no worse than the dialup isp I used for 4 yrs. (Earthlink) Be; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00136.html (10,869 bytes)
7. RE: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Randall Young <ryoung@NAVCOMTECH.COM>; Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 19:55:08 -0700; I've already sent Scott a lengthy reply off-list. For the benefit of others, I will simply say that I know the guy at his computer shop is wrong. It stands to reason, DSL runs over the phone line an; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00137.html (9,618 bytes)
8. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: "Kai M. Radicke" <kmr@pil.net>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 01:06:14 -0400; Randall, as usual, is correct. But for simplicity, and to give a better illustration of how the infrastructure is laid out, I will add my bit. DSL networks are setup the same, architecturally, as ph; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00138.html (12,276 bytes)
9. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Bullwinkle <yd3@nvc.net>; Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 23:37:48 -0600; All of this talk about connect speeds reminds me of how much extra garbage one has to go through to get information off the WEB. Back when I first started with telephone access to BBSs I used a 300 b; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00139.html (9,595 bytes)
10. RE: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: "Randall Young" <ryoung@navcomtech.com>; Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:36:54 -0700; Kai, I'm sorry but I don't feel this is even a legitimate simplification. Television cable is simply a wire, not all that different from the original Ethernet wire, and the wire works either directi; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00140.html (11,374 bytes)
11. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: "Kai M. Radicke" <kmr@pil.net>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:48:18 -0400; You're right again Randall. I remember now kicking over the large token ring hubs (looked like big lunch boxes!) that sat under our desks in school 10 years ago. Kai /// unsubscribe/change address r; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00142.html (9,564 bytes)
12. RE: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: David Cole <dgcole01@bellsouth.net>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:46:31 -0500; I don't own a notebook, but if I did I could use it away from home. Bellsouth let's you use your same id/password with their regular dialup #'s. Did it once when the dsl went down for a couple of hou; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00143.html (12,853 bytes)
13. RE: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: <ken.landaiche@nokia.com>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:34:19 -0700; CLAIMER - I design DSL equipment, have for six years. The guy at the two-guy computer store is wrong about the sharing. DSL lines go from central office to each home so each user is independent. Cabl; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00144.html (11,311 bytes)
14. RE: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Chris Kantarjiev <cak@dimebank.com>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:44:46 -0700 (PDT); The one area in which there may be sharing of bandwidth on DSL is at the CO/ISP - because ISPs tend to underallocate their outbound bandwidth to the Internet backbone. They have to do this to make an; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00145.html (10,247 bytes)
15. RE: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Chris Kantarjiev <cak@dimebank.com>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:51:01 -0700 (PDT); And, I should point out, this kind of sharing of bandwidth to the backbone happens no matter what technology is being used to get from the customer to the ISP: DSL, cable, or modem pool. On cable sys; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00146.html (9,428 bytes)
16. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Eric Murray <ericm@lne.com>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:07:35 -0700; With DSL there is 'sharing' once you go from the DSL lines themselves onto the telco network from the COs to the Internet. That's where the bandwidth limitations can be put into place. Me too. I can; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00147.html (11,330 bytes)
17. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Rush <jdrush@enter.net>; Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 14:13:53 -0400; So you can see Silicon Valley and you don't have DSL? Have you seen these columns? http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20020207.html http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010823.html http:/; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00148.html (8,536 bytes)
18. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Trevor Boicey <tboicey@brit.ca>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:12:36 -0400; Actually you don't even need to order a cable modem to have this. Many digital cable boxes communicate both ways, for example, to record pay-per-view purchases or allow users to order products or pac; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00149.html (10,019 bytes)
19. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: Scott Hall <sch8489@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:02:02 -0400 (EDT); that was my high on my list until I discovered two things: 1) regular dial-up uploads, i.e., you have to maintain a dial-up i.s.p. and you get to keep the dial-up upload speed. (but, then, the same g; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00154.html (10,291 bytes)
20. Re: next question - cable access vrs DSL (score: 1): Author: "Michael Lowe" <mlowe@itrade-sa.com>; Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:24:42 -0700; Hi there, I have DirecPC, here in Napa, CA. Download speed is ok sometime, about 750Kb (1/2 DSL), uploads max at 26.5Kb, (which is fastest my modem works here anyway), if you can run faster, that is; /html/shop-talk/2002-05/msg00155.html (10,207 bytes)

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