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1. rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:30:26 -0500; Howdy, another list I'm on has a discussion going on about piston rings rotating. or not. The sources range from WAG to total seal to SAE papers....anybody here got the facts? John Robinson, Mechanic; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00543.html (8,233 bytes)
2. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: Skip Higginbotham <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:56:48 -0500; John, Mine haven't rotated that I know of and I always check on teardown. /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archi; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00544.html (8,748 bytes)
3. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:19:52 -0500; I have had the same results, if they do move/rotate, its' less than 1/8 turn from original position....It's just one of those email list arguments I try to stay out of as the objectionable to me pers; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00546.html (9,462 bytes)
4. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: ardunbill@webtv.net; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:26:14 -0400 (EDT); With all the 'fury' in there, and nothing to positively locate them, my guess is they squirm and wiggle around a little, and it might vary from engine to engine, but would be inconsequential. This re; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00547.html (8,563 bytes)
5. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:59:10 -0500; Tongue in cheek, or in australia? but you have a good real world question, I just don't have an answer.... John Robinson, Mechanician Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin 1513 University Av; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00554.html (8,706 bytes)
6. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:34:19 -0700; Studebaker also used pins to keep the rings from rotating. I can remember the vertical ridges left in the cylinder walls because of this. Personally, I think that ring rotation is as much a problem; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00555.html (9,231 bytes)
7. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: ardunbill@webtv.net; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:42:24 -0400 (EDT); Tom, would that be Studebaker Flathead 6s, or V8s, or both? Bill /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at ht; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00556.html (8,251 bytes)
8. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:02:54 -0700; Flat heads! /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/land-speed /// what is need; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00557.html (8,368 bytes)
9. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: John Goodman <ggl205@yahoo.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:04:48 -0700 (PDT); John, interesting that you mention rotating rings. Just yesterday, I had another discussion with an engine designer on the subject. My stock question is to provide solid, tangible, experimental data; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00558.html (10,399 bytes)
10. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:09:47 -0500; no I did understand that it was a real question, and did say "tongue in cheek". I was not slighting your question in the least, your question is "good real world and honest". another engine/ring move; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00559.html (9,890 bytes)
11. RE: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 23:49:34 -0500; I stopped "participating" and went to just "lurking" on the MC Chassis List, in-part because of the same obnoxious know-it-all. He really IS very knowledgeable, but that is no reason for him to expe; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00561.html (10,092 bytes)
12. RE: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: <Dale.Clay@mdhelicopters.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:06:09 -0700; WOW, new word for the day, "cylindricity." I like it. Just a question, John, as you seem to be the expert in this area, what is your opinion of Total Seal rings? I was considering running them, is th; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00562.html (10,486 bytes)
13. RE: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:09:44 -0500; The type of aero engine you describe is called a "rotary" as opposed to a "radial". Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ no I did understand that it was a real question, and did say "tongue in cheek". I was not; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00564.html (10,414 bytes)
14. RE: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: John Goodman <ggl205@yahoo.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:53:02 -0700 (PDT); Dale, I am far from an expert on anything. Just a guy with a few questions. I am however, guilty of being too opinionated. Comes from hanging around Dave Dahlgren for too many years. It has been my e; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00573.html (9,959 bytes)
15. RE: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: "Jim Belford" <jimbelford@msn.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:54:03 -0600; Does anyone know of any rule (safety or otherwise) that would prevent someone from mounting a digital video camera to a motorcycle's fuel tank to film a run down the course at Bonneville? Gixxer Jim; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00574.html (8,710 bytes)
16. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: "DrMayf" <drmayf@teknett.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 15:18:03 -0700; Only thing I can add is that on a 2 stroke engine, the rings are generally pinned to keed then from rotating and getting hung up in a port. I always thought they all rotated, otherwise wouldn'y you h; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00586.html (9,956 bytes)
17. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: John Goodman <ggl205@yahoo.com>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 17:22:50 -0700 (PDT); "I always thought they all rotated, otherwise wouldn'y you have a wear line up and down the cylinder where the gap is? Heck of a good question but what is the payoff? mayf" mayf, I suspect that by al; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00592.html (9,247 bytes)
18. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: "atrav" <atravis@spacey.net>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 21:25:13 -0400; IMHO, I think if piston rings were supposed to rotate, then it wouldn't be so crucial to have the ring gaps different from each other when assembling an engine. On a related note, I was reading that; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00599.html (8,484 bytes)
19. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: "atrav" <atravis@spacey.net>; Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 21:42:10 -0400; That reminds me of a related question. Some of my machinists friends have this running discussion about how easy a newly assembled short block should rotate. Think generic American V-8, assembled cor; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00601.html (9,153 bytes)
20. Re: rings rotating? (score: 1): Author: John Goodman <ggl205@yahoo.com>; Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 06:11:50 -0700 (PDT); As a point of clarification, manufacturer literature says rings should ratchet. Rotating or spinning, is something to be avoided. Now, what mechanics in the cylinder bore can you create to generate a; /html/land-speed/2003-05/msg00612.html (9,383 bytes)

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