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21. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "The Backus's" <34ford@email.msn.com>; Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:19:57 -0500; Yes, and they recently outlawed my class, A/fuel..... seems they were getting way too competitive. John Backus 309A/F was and; /html/land-speed/2000-12/msg00404.html (7,680 bytes)
22. rules (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:28:00 -0500; If you want to run say /CC with your sedan and install a belly pan, than it must cover at least 51% of the bottom of the car to be considered a belly pan. It can be larger say 75% or 100% but not sm; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00421.html (8,205 bytes)
23. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>; Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:15:02 -0800; Chuck & list, Reference pg 38 of the 1999 rulebook, Streamling - if a streamling device has the APPARENT purpose of controlling airflow it is then considered as streamling for classification. A belly; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00422.html (9,332 bytes)
24. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "Kim & Brad Johnson" <b091696@snowhill.com>; Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:48:34 -0600; Hey Dan, Chuck, John, etc... Lets say I have a production car. It says no streamlining and no belly pan(page 60). Streamlining (page 38) talks about belly pans (item e), but not step pans. We've said; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00424.html (10,820 bytes)
25. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>; Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:21:52 -0800; The general intent of rules for production class vehicles is outlined on pg. 58. No modifications are allowed that changes the configuration of the vehicle. A step pan would alter the under chassis i; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00425.html (12,250 bytes)
26. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "Kim & Brad Johnson" <b091696@snowhill.com>; Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:06:03 -0600; Thanks Dan....I was afraid of that...but it didn't hurt to explore the territory. How about interiors and the business of "interior gutting"? I've seen just door panels all the way to full interiors; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00426.html (13,489 bytes)
27. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:41:55 -0500; As I understand the rules. In /PRO and /GC classes you must run the door panes and rear inside quarter trim panes too, also the dash board as well. Carpet, headliner and rear seat may be removed. Da; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00434.html (8,460 bytes)
28. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>; Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500; Thanks for the info. My biggest problem seems to be that I don't yet have a SCTA rule book, a problem I intend to remedy very soon. From what I read in the ECTA rules a step pan seems to be just wha; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00439.html (8,558 bytes)
29. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "Kim & Brad Johnson" <b091696@snowhill.com>; Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:26:54 -0600; Thanks John....so as my little pea brain understands it, I need door panels, the side panels behind the doors, and some portion of a dash board (most of which is done away with by the roll cage and t; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00455.html (9,361 bytes)
30. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:57:23 -0800; You are correct about the interior panels John. A bulkhead is preferred between the passenger area and the trunk. If something is carried in the trunk, fuel cell, batteries, etc. then a bulkhead is R; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00460.html (9,410 bytes)
31. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:17:25 -0500; in production and gas coupe, in lieu of running the original doorpanels made of cardboard and plastic vinyl, arent competitors allowed to make replacement doorpanels out of , say , alum sheetmetal. r; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00461.html (8,259 bytes)
32. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 05:59:32 -0800; Gas Coupes may be gutted, all interior paneling removed. Production class vehicles must have "original side panel upholstery or equivalent" (pg. 60). Headliner and carpet material can be removed. do; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00467.html (8,862 bytes)
33. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:22:33 -0500; Production class vehicles must have "original side panel upholstery or equivalent" (pg. 60). so, replacing the original factory cardboard/vinyl doorpanel upholstery with aluminum sheetmetal or simila; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00469.html (8,122 bytes)
34. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:28:35 -0500; Have to wonder if "or equivalent" means doing away with the vinyl panel is acceptable. Seems to me that goes beyond the spirit of the rules. To my way of thinking equivalent means "to be equal" and; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00471.html (8,880 bytes)
35. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:42:25 -0800 (PST); -- John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com> Hope you don't mind me jumping in here. Replaceing Vinyl with Aluminum is certainly a "safety and fire hazard" improvement though. == Dick J in east Tex; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00472.html (8,637 bytes)
36. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:56:22 -0500; maybe im missing the big picture, but to me, reading the rules VERBATUM , "or equivalent" means something which provides the same function and service as the original piece, and as i see it, sheetmet; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00473.html (9,220 bytes)
37. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: V4GR@aol.com; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:14:06 EST; Doug-I believe that your interruption of the rules on door panels is pretty much what has been the deal in the past, and probably will be in the future. I'm sure that Dan will weigh in with the finia; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00474.html (8,021 bytes)
38. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:39:24 -0500; Your right in your 'interpretation of the rule. Safety issues aside, be careful of how you read things VERBATIM. As per Noah Webster equivalent means "equal in force, amount or value". If aluminum m; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00477.html (10,133 bytes)
39. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:10:07 -0500; i guess i would personally have a tough time in tech inspection if i rolled in with a production entry with some nice, well crafted, polished or anodized beadrolled aluminum doorpanels and i started; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00479.html (8,988 bytes)
40. Re: rules (score: 1): Author: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:35:28 -0500; I actually think this is a good exercise. Not everybody interrupts the rules in the same way. What's absolutely clear to one is as thick as mud to another. This kind of discussion helps clarify thin; /html/land-speed/2000-01/msg00480.html (9,753 bytes)

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