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1. safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: "Bob & Bobe" <rbeefmst@brightok.net>; Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:10:21 -0500; There are several options in head and neck systems that I have not seen mentioned on the list. G force makes a inexpensive system that limits forward motion of the head. Hutchens device also limits f; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00331.html (8,139 bytes)
2. Re: safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: Doug Odom <dlodom@charter.net>; Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:04:18 -0700; What does the Navy use in the airplanes that land on the carriers? That has to be one heck of a quick stop and the pilot has still has to be able to turn his head when he is flying. Just thought abou; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00333.html (8,523 bytes)
3. Re: safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: "John Burk" <joyseydevil@comcast.net>; Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:04:21 -0400; Some of the Hans alternatives look pretty scarey . The Hans restrains on a horizontal plane at the CG of the drivers head . The others I saw , maybe to get around the Hans patent , have straps that a; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00335.html (7,714 bytes)
4. RE: safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: "Tom Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>; Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:09:47 -0700; <Some of the Hans alternatives look pretty scarey . The Hans restrains on a horizontal plane at the CG of the drivers head . The others I saw , maybe to get around the Hans patent , have straps that; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00336.html (8,031 bytes)
5. RE: safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: "Clay, Dale" <Dale.Clay@mdhelicopters.com>; Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:32:20 -0700; Hey Neil, looks a lot like your idea! My only "issue" is it looks like you have to pull a pit pin on each side to disengage the cylinders. On some of the tight fitting cages in LSR I'm not sure you'd; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00337.html (8,378 bytes)
6. RE: safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:07:37 -0500; Yes, it does look a bit like what I had in mind. I'd anchor the cylinders to a fixed, wearable structure something like the HANS. The crash test video results look like their damping is a bit on the; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00338.html (8,980 bytes)
7. Re: safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>; Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:46:17 -0700; It looks like an effective system, but I have two concerns. My first question would be "Can both pins be removed with one hand (if the other is injured) with SFI gloves on?" My other thought is, dri; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00339.html (8,465 bytes)
8. Re: safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:02:18 -0700; Bryan, not picking on you, just used your reply to enter my own... Heck, why not just use an airbag? We coul duse ones like in the street cars, say one from a small car All it needs to do is prevent; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00340.html (9,120 bytes)
9. Safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: "3 liter" <saltfever@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:20:01 -0700; This thread has kind of run its course but I have not seen anything mentioned about air-bag-seat-belts. There is a new system being proposed for the general aviation market. An air-bag is incorporate; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00417.html (8,330 bytes)
10. Re: Safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <b.a.savage@wildblue.net>; Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:59:04 -0700; Just for the record; There is a shop near the San Jose, CA, airport that makes belts for aerobatic use. The seat belt has a ratchet from a 3" wide tie down. Prior to doing the violent stuff, the pilo; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00425.html (9,108 bytes)
11. RE: Safety devices other than Hans (score: 1): Author: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:08:17 -0500; Tightening a belt that tight is a way of preventing blood from being forced into the lower extremities, away from the brain-- a substitute for a "G- suit". I doubt if it would be too popular in a ra; /html/land-speed/2006-06/msg00436.html (8,406 bytes)

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