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1. was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: "Jeff Lloyd" <jslz3@hotmail.com>; Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:38:05 GMT; with all this talk about GS and type r's I just have One question, instead of messing with a class where anyone of 3-4 cars can win lets work on the classes where you must drive one car or you are ou; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00305.html (7,972 bytes)
2. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: TeamZ3@aol.com; Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:53:15 EDT; << current BS as is now (Only 1.8 miata) move the 2litre Mr2 to BS move the rest of the cars in BS to C Stock, including the 1.6 miata ...>> I bet BMWNA and Jeff Altenburg would like that idea. M Sip; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00309.html (7,603 bytes)
3. RE: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: "Moore, John" <jmoore@spyglass.com>; Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:05:57 -0500; My response to this took a while because I decided it might be nice if someone based a response on real facts once in a while and not just thier own speculation. All numbers for this comparison have; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00315.html (9,673 bytes)
4. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: TeamZ3@aol.com; Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:21:43 EDT; << 1993 Toyota MR2 NA (CS, where it should be) Hell, looking at certain results it ought to be in SS or AS :-O ...or we could just ban all people named B. Priebe from the sport :-) M Sipe; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00318.html (8,008 bytes)
5. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>; Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:21:25 -0700; The BMW belongs in GS period.; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00319.html (8,321 bytes)
6. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: Eric W Clements <ewc4@juno.com>; Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:43:43 -0400; Woo Hoo! Turbo MR2's in BS! Sign me up--I'll trade in my CS NA one for a turbo under those conditions any day! (The turbo MR2's are the only 2.0 liter ones--and 200 hp. The normally aspirated ones ar; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00324.html (8,381 bytes)
7. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: "Jeff Lloyd" <jslz3@hotmail.com>; Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:10:59 GMT; which bmw.... my Z3 1.9 does not belong in GS, I'll admit it is just a little too light @ 2675lbs dry, for GS the 32X's do however, I think the move of the 1.6 miata's to CS for next season is a good; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00326.html (8,443 bytes)
8. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: Mari L Clements <mrndr2@juno.com>; Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:37:51 -0400; Someone forgot to tell Glen Hernandez and Carol Leuty (and several other 924S drivers) that they can't be competitive in CS. Hear that, you all? Stay home. Don't even come to nationals, because only; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00330.html (8,568 bytes)
9. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: "Glen Hernandez" <mehurricane2@hotmail.com>; Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 18:30:24 PDT; Gosh, Now they tell me... I have a non-refundable airline ticket. This info earlier would have saved me a lot of $$ ;-) See you there! Glen "Hurricane" Hernandez '88 924S CS #140 - appearantly a knif; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00332.html (9,284 bytes)
10. RE: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: "Kelly, Katie" <kkelly@spss.com>; Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:28:52 -0700; Well, maybe you have THE car for the class, you never know. We'll all find out after Nationals. Until then, I suggest we table this conversation until we know what the top cars for each class are. In; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00333.html (8,913 bytes)
11. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>; Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:42:27 -0700; Yeah, but for a ProSolo national championship, the BLACK miata is clearly the color of choice ;-) (ie, remember Jeff Altenberg won the 96 finally in a black car ;-) ) --JCG -- Original Message -- Fro; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00337.html (9,558 bytes)
12. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>; Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:45:30 -0700; I was talking about the currently class BS BMW, which would be the 32x sedan. Hopelessly out classed with equal drivers against the Miata. Now that you mention it, the 1.9 Z3 might stand a chance in; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00338.html (9,324 bytes)
13. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: Alan Pozner <apozner@epix.net>; Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:06:29 -0400; Clearly, Kelly you don't understand anything about light absorption :-) The black Miatae can't beat the red because they absorb more light. Now, while light is light (boy I love typing that), Einstei; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00343.html (9,327 bytes)
14. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: "Eric Linnhoff" <eric10mm@qni.com>; Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 00:51:35 -0700; == Ahh, but consider this. If it happens to be a bright sunny day the black car should be able to go faster than the red car. It works like this. The solar radiation is absorbed by the black paint a; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00355.html (9,475 bytes)
15. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: Joshua Hadler <jhadler@rmi.net>; Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 02:18:41 -0600; Unfortunately, any competitive advantage gained from reduced air resistance is lost and then some by the decreased air density going into the engine. Less air, less power. Give me the white car in th; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00357.html (8,665 bytes)
16. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: dan pedroza <beagleracing@mroad.com>; Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:12:36 -0700; Clearly, Pozner you don't understand anything about downforce. O:) With the darker colored Miatae, their light weight, and handling abilities, the lightrays beating straight down on the Miata will o; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00366.html (8,717 bytes)
17. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: Alan Pozner <apozner@epix.net>; Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 14:26:00 -0400; So the solution is paint the air intake white to cool the intake air, paint the front of the car black to "superheat" the air ahead of the car to make it thinner, and strip the paint of the rest of t; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00385.html (8,422 bytes)
18. Re: was New GS, now Class killerz (score: 1): Author: Mark Sirota <msirota@isc.upenn.edu>; Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 00:39:53 -0500; Heh heh... Move the 914 2.0 to DS (and don't make it run US-spec front ride height) and I'm sure a lot of us will go buy them again! Talk about a car that's more than the sum of its parts... Mark; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00400.html (7,912 bytes)

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