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1. [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Jim Stone <jandkstone99@msn.com>; Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:48:22 -0600 FILETIME=[7098CD20:01CDF422]; My new vacation/rental property has one feature that makes me very nervous: access to the basement is through a trap door in the floor. It is a small house and the trap door sits in a hallway with th; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00031.html (10,276 bytes)
2. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:12:27 -0500; You can block the hallway when the door is open (think those retractable belts they use for queues at the movie theater). Google "Wall mounted belt barrier." When you are going to open the door, you; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00032.html (12,984 bytes)
3. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:24:42 -0600; I'm envisioning a switch (like for a security system) that will tell you when the door is open, hooked up to a big red flashing light. Could be a simple tilt switch (like on an old pinball machine).; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00033.html (12,512 bytes)
4. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Ian McFetridge <shop-talk2@mcfetridge.org>; Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:26:27 -0500; It sounds like you need some sort of interlock, such that someone cannot use the trap door unless something is blocking people from falling into it. One way to do it would be to put a second trap doo; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00034.html (12,961 bytes)
5. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:31:08 -0500; Me too, except a big light shining up out of the hole should be sufficient. I wouldn't want to have to have a flashing red light all the time that anyone is in the basement doing laundry. I didn't un; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00035.html (11,014 bytes)
6. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:41:14 -0500; Hmm, what about a remote controlled automatic opener/closer, like one sometimes see on hospital doors? Push a big button (positioned so you can bump it with an elbow if your hands are full) and the d; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00036.html (10,493 bytes)
7. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: "John Niolon" <jniolon@att.net>; Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:05:33 -0600; boy, there are some elaborate ideas here... might be cheaper to hire a small imported boy with a yellow caution flag to watch the hole... I'm liking something like a 'slam latch' like on truck under; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00037.html (11,891 bytes)
8. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Jim Stone <jandkstone99@msn.com>; Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:11:20 -0600; Thanks guys. Some interesting approaches, but none that will probably keep the lawyers at bay. (Although the "imported boy" idea might actually work, it could also bring a different kind of lawyer my; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00041.html (14,389 bytes)
9. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: "Eric J Russell" <ejrussell@mebtel.net>; Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:40:59 -0500 a=-JObsjWD2_UA:10 a=P2oOn6vrs4wA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=S2wpYzp2RsyRkoRNwqcm1Q==:17 a=l0LQuQEF7-nFWpPEDSwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=S2wpYzp2RsyRkoRNwqcm1Q==:117 reip=0.00; I'm imagining something like the mechanisms at Thomas Jefferson's Monticello. When the doors are opened a hidden pulley system could move bars - like the trafficators on an olde English car - into th; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00042.html (10,724 bytes)
10. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: nick brearley <nick@landform.co.uk>; Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:30:38 +0000; For starters, how about this? http://www.cellaraccess.co.uk/Grille%20Door.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQLGCmhllo Would keep children entertained for hours. Won't be cheap, but still cheaper; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00043.html (10,857 bytes)
11. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Scott <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:35:58 -0800; All the engineering solutions are pretty cool sounding, but after being a landlord myself, there's just no way I'd ever rent out a house with a trapdoor in it, no matter what. I'd build a staircase--; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00044.html (12,191 bytes)
12. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Jim Stone <jandkstone99@msn.com>; Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:42:34 -0600; Thanks Nick. That is exactly the kind of thing I had been hoping to find. I actually found that company when I was surfing to see if I could find an answer before polling this group, but obviously di; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00045.html (11,743 bytes)
13. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: "Paul Mele" <paul.mele@usermail.com>; Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:20:29 -0500; I'll second this opinion. I'm also a landlord, and as an ER doc, I've heard thousands of stories of "errors in judgment" . My wife and daughter are both attorneys. PM All the engineering solutions ar; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00049.html (11,994 bytes)
14. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Rand E <mistertwo@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:08:46 -0800 (PST); Someone would then figure out how to 'trip' over the barriers. Randy All the engineering solutions are pretty cool sounding, but after being a landlord myself, there's just no way I'd ever rent out a; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00051.html (12,582 bytes)
15. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Scott <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:54:15 -0800; I was thinking for just him and his wife. I'm reasonably certain the barrier would stop me, and probably my wife too. And (more importantly) I know I won't sue myself. On the other hand, it's only a; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00055.html (14,040 bytes)
16. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: eric@megageek.com; Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:33:12 -0500 7.0.1|January 17, 2006) at 01/19/2013 10:31:55, Serialize complete at 01/19/2013 10:31:55; If you want to send me the photos and I can post them to my webserver for free, let me know. Thanks. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenche; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00056.html (9,131 bytes)
17. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: Jim Stone <jandkstone99@msn.com>; Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:22:00 -0600; Thanks Eric. I won't be able to take them until next week, but I can just put them on one of the free sites, unless there is an advantage to using your server. Is there? Sent from my iPhone http://au; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00061.html (10,675 bytes)
18. Re: [Shop-talk] Making a trap door safe (score: 1): Author: eric@megageek.com; Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:14:58 -0500 7.0.1|January 17, 2006) at 01/19/2013 19:14:00, Serialize complete at 01/19/2013 19:14:00; The only real advantage is control. On my server, you never lose rights of the pictures or have to worry about ads or targeted marketing. I will not be offended if you use a free site, I was just put; /html/shop-talk/2013-01/msg00063.html (9,722 bytes)

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