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Re: Important warning to stop using PayPal- not Triumph related

To: tr6_1969@hotmail.com, 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Important warning to stop using PayPal- not Triumph related
From: BigOldWumper@aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:34:18 EST
Possibly you could try taking it up with eBay? I know they have buyer and 
seller assurance programs, though I have never looked into them. I doubt you 
will 
get your money back from PayPal, but I would pursue eBay, and if that doesn't 
work, pursue the original bidder. What was their reason in the first place 
for taking the money back out of your account 2 months later? I would have 
guessed that if the buyer/PayPal user that had paid you in the first place was 
using an account with zero funds, the transaction would have bounced 
immediately.
-Sean

In a message dated 11/4/2003 12:19:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
tr6_1969@hotmail.com writes:

> Subj: Important warning to stop using PayPal- not Triumph related 
>  Date: 11/4/2003 12:19:44 PM Pacific Standard Time
>  From: <A HREF="mailto:tr6_1969@hotmail.com";>tr6_1969@hotmail.com</A>
>  To: <A HREF="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A>
>  Sent from the Internet 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I recently had the displeasure of loosing $161.00.  Gone with no apparent 
> ability of recuperation.  Burn those $100 bills, baby. My TR6 could 
> certainly use those funds. The cost of a new wire wheel, a nylon carpet set, 
> 
> a seat foam kit, etc.
> 
> I feel that the PayPal sytem is anything but secure.  I will no longer 
> accept PayPal for anything I sell, that is certain.  Unless you authorize 
> PayPal to have control of your bank account or you are willing to take a 
> chance as to whether the funds wil be good or not.  And with absolutely no 
> way of knowing.  Going to the casino at least you know what your odds are.
> 
> I sold an item on eBay and accepted payment via PayPal.  The buyer had zero 
> negatives and I shipped the item to their confirmed address.  And I have 
> proof.  Doesn4t matter.  PayPal doesn4t care.  I did everything that both 
> PayPal and eBay require for the transaction.  2 months after the transaction 
> 
> PayPal automatically took the funds back out of my account and further told 
> me that they would not help me with the situation by giving me any 
> information concerning the issue.  I have to have a subpoena.  This was 
> their response.  PayPal could just as easily have said: "Go *bleep* 
> yourself".  I have absolutely no way of correcting the situation and getting 
> 
> my money without spending far more money than was robbed of me.  Welcome to 
> PayPal.
> 
> I feel that everyone should stay FAR away from PayPal, both on the buyers 
> side and the sellers side.  PayPal clauses have zero-risk built into the 
> deal only for PayPal and all of the risk built into the agreement for the 
> buyers and sellers.  They never loose a cent, but you surely can! ! ! 16,100 
> 
> cents in my case.  My example is perfect.  I even read and understood the 
> USER AGREEMENT.
> 
> Of course I am available to further expound on this issue for those 
> interested, though it will take me a while to respond, as I4m currently in 
> Spain.  Off line of course.
> 
> I just wanted all you good people to know.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Dave Herbert




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