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What to do with Pot Shots

To: SloMoIV@aol.com, alpines@autox.team.net
Subject: What to do with Pot Shots
From: MrZAG57@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:24:07 EST
In a message dated 3/5/2001 12:53:09 PM, SloMoIV@aol.com writes:

<< If your "facts" aren't supported, then yes, you can expect replies.  >>

Consider the following:

In a message dated 3/5/2001 3:20:05 PM, bwana@c2i2.com writes:

<< I am not trying to take away anything from someone who gets out there and

puts his car wheel to wheel with other cars, in fact, I worship them! Most

people sit around and talk about what they are going to do, or have done,

but there are few who actually do it! But, Eric is right on this one. He did

preface his original statement by saying that a Tiger that had a tube frame

with fiberglass fenders etc could keep up with the current comptetion.

Having seen the car in question, I remember studying it for any factory

original production part. I think there are about 10?

Someone else brought up Doane Spencer, one of my true idols. Before he built

the Tiger, he built one of the fastest Alpines of all time. They had more

sucess with it than they did the Tiger.Here is a breakdown of the two cars

in SCCA national standing "In the day":

Alpine

1960        National Champion, G Production

1961        3rd Place National, E Production

1962        2nd Place National, E Production

1963        Tied for National Champion F Production

1964        National Champion F Production


Tiger

(      )

 Obviously, there are more types of racing involved that are worthy of

mention, such as Rallies and drag racing. The Rally record is probably about

equal with a slight edge for the Alpine since more cars were entered, but as

far as the drag racing thing goes, the Tiger seems to have edged out the

Alpine for a clear vicory, which goes back to the original statement that

"If you want to go fast in a straight line."

I think the true test of a cars ability to kick ass on the competition is

the amount of private entries that you wouls find "back in the day". This is

where sportscar enthusiasts pick out a car that they recognize has a serious

chance at winning in its class, prepare it, and race it. As we are

discovering, there were a shitload of people privately racing Alpines, one

visit to Steve Silverstiens site can show the veracity of that, but I don't

know that there were all that many Tigers raced, and all that I know of had

factory support. >>

In a message dated 3/5/2001 12:53:09 PM, SloMoIV@aol.com writes:

<<The careful reader also might decide that more "potshots" are found in your 
original post than in the replies posted so far. >>

Jan Eyerman wrote:
<<I am glad to hear that some very capable people have been able to take a
Hillman Husky chassis and a hotted up Hillman Minx engine and beat the tar out
of real sports cars (MG, Triumph, etc).
>>

In a message dated 3/5/2001 6:54:16 PM, v.hughes@student.canberra.edu.au 
writes:

<< Jan,

No offence, but you're not suggesting the Alpine is not a 'real' sports car 
are
you?  Let's not forget the original MG was a hotted up Bullnose Morris, and 
MGA's
and B's used the same basic engine as the Morris Oxford sedan.  Triumphs of 
all TR
series used engines from sedans as well, and you'll find all sorts of Ford 
bits
(including engine) in a Lotus.

A sports car is a sports car not from what you put into it, but from what you 
get
out of it.

Cheers

Vic >>

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