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RE: Time Trial at Thunderhill

To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Time Trial at Thunderhill
From: "Navid Kahangi" <navid@interwoven.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:56:44 -0800
Seems like a basic rule made up by an autoxer.  I did a full season of club
racing this year and I can tell you first hand that I spent more money on
tires for autox than I did for road racing.  And I'm not even talking per
minute here.

--Navid

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kelly, Katie
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Time Trial at Thunderhill
>
>
> I thought the basic rule of budgeting roadracing, is that one
> year of autocross is about the equivalent of one roadrace.
>
> Katie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Creasy [mailto:black94pgt@pacbell.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:29 AM
> To: Navid Kahangi; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Time Trial at Thunderhill
>
>
> please may i borrow your calculator, sir?  the one i have reports only
> extremely depressing figures regarding the cost of road racing...
>
> -james c
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Navid Kahangi <navid@interwoven.com>
> To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:55 PM
> Subject: RE: Time Trial at Thunderhill
>
>
> > > Unfortunately in your enthusiasm you've neglected to include ALL the
> costs
> > > of road racing. Most noticeably missing is the maintenance
> costs on your
> > > car. Even BMWs wear out parts. In what little I know about BMW parts,
> they
> > > are VERY expensive. Having the same installed will cost you
> money and/or
> > > time.
> > > And like all forms of automotive competition,
> > > Speed costs Money.
> > > How fast do you want to go?
> > >
> > > --John Kelly
> >
> > I'll be the last one to argue that road racing is cheap, but as
> you recall
> > this conversation started as a price comparison between autox and road
> > racing.  So, let's do compare ALL the costs, shall we?
> >
> > A set of Hoosiers last me about 40 autox laps.  That's 35
> minutes of autox
> > driving.  The same set last me about 4 hours of track time.  Tire
> advantage,
> > road racing.
> >
> > I do much more threshold braking in autox than I do on track.  Brake
> > advantage, road racing.
> >
> > I spend much more time on the rev-limiter in an autox course
> than I do in
> 50
> > seconds of track.  Engine advantage, road racing.
> >
> > I do shift gears a lot more on track than I do in autox.  Tranny
> advantage,
> > autox.  But then again, I've been on the same tranny for 145,000 miles
> > without a problem.
> >
> > Then there are these bonus autox expenses like running at 3Com.
>  I broke 3
> > different things on my car last time I autoxed at 3Com.
> >
> > --Navid

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