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Re: [PreWar] oil pump mesh/strainer

To: mikey@b2systems.com, david_laver@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PreWar] oil pump mesh/strainer
From: johno8@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:46:14 -0400 (EDT)
 Both my pre-war Alvis have those mesh filters.

What oil are you using?  What is current air temp where you are?  If you are
only running for a few minutes and not letting engine get up to temp then
suggest you use a syn 0W/20 oil.

Have you squirted MMO or similar into the spark plug holes to ensure top end
has some lubri?

Have you thoroughly cleaned the fuel tank, or are you feeding fuel from a
local reservoir to start?  If you haven't cleaned tank and are drawing fuel
from it, it will probably be a source of frustration at some stage.

Good luck!  Sounds fun!

No risk = no reward!

John





-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rambour <mikey@b2systems.com>
To: David Laver <david_laver@hotmail.com>
Cc: british-cars-pre-war <british-cars-pre-war@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: [PreWar] oil pump mesh/strainer


  Yeah, and I am there with the courage after 9 years of the car sitting
in my garage.  I did have a "excuse" I was working on another 1934
Singer and did not want 2 cars apart at the same time, guess it was a
lousy excuse.

  There is no oil filter on the car, never has been so the only filter
is that screen.    The inside of the engine will be fairly clean and the
pan will be clean, so no big chunks will be floating around in the new
oil.  I will only be running it 3-5 minutes since I still have to do
brakes and wiring (rats got the wiring) and I know the radiator leaks
some, so not a long running time, just long enough to see how well it
does.   The brakes failed on the previous owner in 1968 on the 405
freeway (San Diego Freeway) so it was at least running pretty well in
those days, not sure what gave me the courage but I am anxious all of a
sudden.

  I am looking into that VW item someone suggested and if not then I
will pull the oil pan on my other 1934 Singer and match up the screen,
that screen wont fit since its a 4 cylinder motor vs. this one 6
cylinder but the screen material is likely the same.

     mike

On 10/05/2011 03:13 AM, David Laver wrote:
>
> Its a risk-reward thing.  At some point you need to pluck up the
> courage to start it, but if it was me I'd want a strainer on the
> pickup and a modern oil filter between the pump and the engine.
>
> David
>
> > Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 14:27:06 -0700
> > From: mikey@b2systems.com
> > To: british-cars-pre-war@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [PreWar] oil pump mesh/strainer
> >
> > My 1934 Singer 1.5Litre has no strainer or wire mesh on the oil
> > pickup tube, I also don't see how one would have been fitted but I know
> > it had one since there is a circular plate on the bottom of the oil pan
> > to clean the pickup with.
> >
> > I really would like to see if it runs this weekend and I may try to
> > fire it without the strainer but I need to make one. Does not look
> > difficult to make but what size mesh do I get ? I found this stuff
> > online and I am not sure what size to get, 100 openings per inch seems
> > awfully small and could cause oil starvation I would think, which would
> > you get ?
> >
> > > Wire cloth, better known as wire screen,
> > > serves as a fuel, oil, and air filter, As well as
> > > bug screen for air vents and horns. We carry
> > > brass and stainless in a variety of mesh counts
> > > (#of openings per inch.) Ex: bugscreens 50;
> > > fuel filters 100. Please let us know your
> > > requirements.
> >
> > Last time the motor ran was 1968, I am really anxious to hear it run
> > and I may just waste a gasket and some oil and put the oil pan on and
> > see if it runs this weekend, I can't drive it anyway until more work
> and
> > I could put the strainer on then, oil will be fresh and clean and oil
> > pan freshly cleaned as well.
> >
> > mike
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