David & all-
The GM T-5 bolts directly to the 4-speed 215 bell housing and to the combo
3/4-speed bell housing. It does not bolt to the 215 3 speed bell housing.
The Ford T-5 can be made to work with any 215 bell housing using an adapter
such as the one D & D sells.
If you are using a later model Rover engine rather than a Buick or Olds 215, you
will need a spacer approximately 3/8" thick either between the engine & bell
housing or between the bell housing & transmission. Casual observation will not
reveal this fact as the whole mess will bolt right up, but the engine will not
turn. This is because the later Rover cranks are longer at the rear than the GM
versions, & the input shaft will bottom out in the end of the crank, putting
enough pressure on the thrust surfaces that the engine cannot turn.
you may have the transmission input shaft shortened.
Mixing Rover engines with GM trannies will require a custom pilot bearing. Not a
David Kernberger wrote:
> Larry & group.
> I thought I had the stock bell housing situation all figured out
> but that is apparently not true afterall. Is an adaptor plate necessary
> for the GM T-5? Later bell housings all have the correct bolt pattern on
> them already, don't they? Or is the adaptor only for the Ford T-5? It
> must take care of the bolt-pattern differnece and different input shaft
> length at the same time. Is that correct?
> I remember my very early 1961 Olds F-85 bell housing was drilled
> only for the Borg Warner T 86 3-speed tranny. But my understanding is that
> all housings were produced with both the 3- and 4-speed drillings once the
> optional T-85 4-speed was introduced in mid-to-late 1961 production. Is
> this not true? Are the GM T-85 4-speed and T-5 5-speed bolt patterns
> different? I thought they were the same. I thought the GM T-5 was a
> direct boltup, including input shaft length and pilot bearing guide. Is
> this true?
> So, what am I missing? TIA
> Dave K.
> >That's the second time this bellhousing has been advertised. The first
> >time the seller had a $100
> >minimum bid. It didn't sell. I offered him $25 after the auction. He
> >Then I called Dan Lagrue. Good thing I didn't buy. The adapter Dan sells
> >makes the housing so long
> >the GM T-5 won't fit. However the Ford T-5 will. This is because the
> >Ford T-5 has a longer input
> >Larry Hoy
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> >>Subject: Buick 215 Bellhousing
> >>If anyone is interested, I browsed by this on Ebay
> >>FACTORY MANUAL 3SPD BELLHOUSING. THIS CAN BE USED WITH 4 OR 5 SPD.BY
> >>USING AN
> >>ALUMINUM 3/8" ADAPTER PLATE MADE FROM TEMPLATE I HAVE TRACED FROM A 4SPD
> >>BELLHOUSING.and will give the correct spacing for gm muncie camaro or
> >>trans am transmission. In great condition no crack. Buyer pays fixed
> >>freight of $15.00
> >>bidding was up to 49.99