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Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY Re: '63 1500

To: Dan Zubkoff <zubkoff@sbcglobal.net>, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY Re: '63 1500
From: Tom PRATHER <tomet9@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:37:27 -0700 (PDT)
Hi,
   
     I agree that this is a later model, earlier models had a less of a flair 
to the front fender and a trunk latch on the trunk lid. Also trunk hinges were 
visible on the trunk.

Dan Zubkoff <zubkoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  http://tinyurl.com/6q7hy7

My Opinion-> The seller is selling a 1967.5 model SPL311, not a 1961 Prototype 
Datsun.

Though the seller concedes it could be a fluke problem with DMV, but the car is 
represented in large type as possibly a '1961 Japanese Prototype'.. 

".....perhaps it's a real-deal prototype from 1961 of what would be become the 
1967 Datsun Fairlady Roadster, the DMV tells me this car was manufactured and 
registered in California in 1961 but first sold by a dealer in the United 
States in 1967."

The seller openly & clearly concedes that he doesn't know if this is a 1961 
car. 

However, the facts point to simply that the California DMV made a clerical 
mistake and switched a digit 7 for a digit 1 on the title.

The car is missing the unique features of the 1961 Prototype SPL310 vehicle. 
Also, the fact that a member on this list owns the Prototype left hand drive 
vehicle shown at the New York Autoshow makes the seller's claim suspect. 

http://tinyurl.com/3k53an

So, roadster experts out there....Do you think this is a special 1961 Prototype 
car or simply a 1967.5 SPL311 with a small typo on the title?

Dan Zubkoff
Houston, TX

PS: In 1961 in California the original type license plates would be the Yellow 
License Plates (1956-1962).

http://tinyurl.com/5meloa

Seth Asher wrote:
People seem not to read the entire ebay post, combined with not
understanding the rules of ebay. Below user Ruth comments that the
description said something different before, but descriptions can't be
changed once there are bids, so it couldn't have said something
different last time she looked.

Regarding user Mark Dent's comment, the description doesn't say anything
refutable about family -- it says his family, friends and acquaintances
have wanted this model car. Why can't he know the history regardless of
how long he's owned the car?


From: Ruth 
...various members of my family, friends and acquaintances have wanted
this car
>Coulda sworn that said "has owned this car" last time I looked.

From: "Mark Dent" 
> that text in the description about family and knowing the history
> is pure BS
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