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Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers

To: Durf & Sue Hyson <dhyson@charter.net>,
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers
From: Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:38:52 -0700 (PDT)
What they were MOST interested in was breaking away
from the Crown and establishing self-government, for
many noble and many self-serving reasons. (they
stressed the noble ones) They were hardly monolithic
in their philosophy, but they were (thankfully)
successful.  One could argue the same for the
Confederacy, though they were not at all successful. 
The winners get to write the history to serve their
purposes.  God Bless the USA.

Roadster content:  See you all at the Mitty next week!
Need to finish my last minute check list for Jessie,
and hit the road!

Mike (SC)
'66 1600 (Jessie)

--- Durf & Sue Hyson <dhyson@charter.net> wrote:

> Steve , at best you can claim that "some" of the
> core beliefs were 
> represented . The rest are often about 180 degrees
> out. Paul is correct 
> about the essential make-up of the founding fathers.
> Historically when 
> you are trying to pigeon-hole with a descriptive
> term you will be 
> incorrect as much as you will be correct as time and
> circumstance alter 
> what the term's current definition is. Besides , it
> doesn't matter at 
> all what you call them. Actual  intentions , actions
> , and achievements 
> or accomplishments provide the proper definition in
> history whatever the 
> "tag" was. By the way the founding fathers were
> never , to a man , for 
> limited government. They were  , however , for
> limiting government 
> applied without the involvement of the people being
> governed and for 
> spreading the base of government to ensure it's
> safety . (three 
> branches/checks and balances)
> The moral of the story ? Think for yourself as they
> did . Forget the 
> rhetoric and the titles . Choose on what you know
> and believe and think 
> will bring the best result. The biggest failure in
> all of the history of 
> American government ? The Party lever on a voting
> machine. Buying the 
> farm to get the cow gets you the cow and all the
> crap that's lying 
> around the barnyard. All that you wanted was the
> cow.
> 
> Many apologies for the rant off topic. I am just
> rooting for people to 
> think for themselves. My line ends with me. Your
> Grandchildren will be 
> better off if we all pay attention. You guys know
> where to aim the 
> arrows. Feel free to do it off site.
> 
> Thanks, Durf
> 
> steve newby wrote:
> >    While your facts are correct, and in the
> context of the time the
> >    fathers were certainly not "conservative" they
> do in fact represent
> >    the core beliefs of todays conservative
> movement.
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