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> 1. Gear reduction starter (Barney Murphy)
> 2. Re: Fuel indication issues (RWM)
> 3. Re: Fuel indication issues (Pat Horne)
> 4. Re: Fuel indication issues (RWM)
> 5. Re: Gear reduction starter (Paul Kort)
> 6. Re: Gear reduction starter (RWM)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 14:20:39 -0400
> From: Barney Murphy <bmurphy15@sc.rr.com>
> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
> Message-ID: <87B31DE8-9B14-4A37-A021-0B6CC9CD7DF5@sc.rr.com>
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> Hey folks.
>
> Just installed a gear reduction starter from Rallye and may I say...what a
> world of difference! Quick, strong rotation. Should've done this a long time
> ago!
>
> Be safe and stay healthy.
> Barney, Columbia, SC.
> 1969 2000
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 16:09:41 -0400
> From: RWM <RWM@RWMann.com>
> To: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
> Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
> Message-ID: <E6EA36D4-0310-4A95-81CF-07535BCAD187@RWMann.com>
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> Pat,
>
> With ignition switch in running position
>
> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
>
> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection
>
> Thanks
>
> - Bob
>
>
>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for
>> voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other
>> should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with
>> voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is
>> no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what
>> y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> Pat Horne
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>
>>
>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters
>>>> <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>>
>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty
>>
>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half
>> full
>>
>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms
>> (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces
>> the wiper off the rheostat windings
>>
>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black
>> connectors removed
>>
>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the
>> fuel gauge indication
>>
>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>>
>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 15:53:22 -0500
> From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
> To: RWM <RWM@rwmann.com>
> Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
> Message-ID: <EF8C9CB9-84B0-4A22-8162-99B45C4CCDC5@icloud.com>
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> Bob,
> That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but the
> black wire should be zero.
>
> When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max.
> Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding
> the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
>> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM@rwmann.com> wrote:
>>
>
> ?Pat,
>
> With ignition switch in running position
>
> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
>
> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection
>
> Thanks
>
> - Bob
>
>
>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for
>> voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other
>> should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with
>> voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is
>> no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what
>> y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> Pat Horne
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>
>>
>>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters
>>>>> <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>>
>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty
>>
>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half
>> full
>>
>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms
>> (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm forces
>> the wiper off the rheostat windings
>>
>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black
>> connectors removed
>>
>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the
>> fuel gauge indication
>>
>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>>
>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>>
>>
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>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 16:57:20 -0400
> From: RWM <RWM@RWMann.com>
> To: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
> Cc: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel indication issues
> Message-ID: <F3D2D163-DE4D-46A4-AEDA-A859C67953C8@RWMann.com>
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>
> Pat,
>
> The black wire is zero (ground).
>
> Guess I'll try to work my fingers up behind the gauge and check for
> continuity.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Bob
>
>
>
>> On May 9, 2020, at 16:53, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Bob,
>> That sounds a bit off. The 7.6v on the yellow wire to ground is fine, but
>> the black wire should be zero.
>>
>> When you ground the yellow wire to the body, the gauge should go to max.
>> Sounds like you have a bad fuel gauge. Just to be sure you can try grounding
>> the terminal on the gauge that the yellow wire goes to.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>>
>> Pat Horne
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>
>>
>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, RWM <RWM@rwmann.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> ?Pat,
>>
>> With ignition switch in running position
>>
>> Yellow wire to chassis is 7.6 volts, same as to black wire
>>
>> Yellow wire to ground, no gauge deflection
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> - Bob
>>
>>
>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 13:19, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Hook everything back up except the sender. Turn on the key & measure for
>>> voltage @ the sender wires to ground. One should show voltage & the other
>>> should be grounded. (Not home now to get colors) ground the one with
>>> voltage. If the gauge still sits on empty you have a bad gauge. If there is
>>> no voltage it could be a bad connection or a bad gauge. Let me know what
>>> y?all find & I?ll walk you through more diagnostics.
>>>
>>> Peace,
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat Horne
>>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters
>>>>>> <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> ?This has been discussed before, but here are the indications:
>>>
>>> Fuel gauge does not budge off empty
>>>
>>> Fuel sender resistance shows 34 ohms as installed, with tank less than half
>>> full
>>>
>>> Fuel sender resistance when removed varies fairly linearly from 47 ohms
>>> (bottom) to near zero ohms (near top), then open circuit when the arm
>>> forces the wiper off the rheostat windings
>>>
>>> Fuel harness is delivering 7.6 volts, measured with the yellow and black
>>> connectors removed
>>>
>>> Shorting the fuel harness to itself (yellow to black) does not change the
>>> fuel gauge indication
>>>
>>> Ammeter works, temperature gauge works
>>>
>>> Ideas? Dash harness connector?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>>
>>> datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
>>>
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>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 17:23:11 -0400
> From: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff@gmail.com>
> To: Barney Murphy <bmurphy15@sc.rr.com>
> Cc: Roadster Stuff <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
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> At Sloan Racing, we used gear reduction starters on both 1600s. Lighter
> & stronger than even the 2000's U20 starter. I probably shouldn't mention
> it, but I installed on in my '73 MGB GT when the stock one failed. Bought
> all 3 at TSI Imports
> http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/gearreductionstarters.html . Call Ted
> and tell him Paul sent you, although I'm not sure if he'll laugh, .... or
> just hang up! :-)
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:23 PM Barney Murphy via Datsun-roadsters <
> datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey folks.
>>
>> Just installed a gear reduction starter from Rallye and may I say...what a
>> world of difference! Quick, strong rotation. Should've done this a long
>> time ago!
>>
>> Be safe and stay healthy.
>> Barney, Columbia, SC.
>> 1969 2000
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
>>
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> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 17:32:12 -0400
> From: RWM <RWM@RWMann.com>
> To: Paul Kort <paulsdatsunstuff@gmail.com>
> Cc: Barney Murphy <bmurphy15@sc.rr.com>, Roadster Stuff
> <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter
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> Did the TSI geared starter swap here years ago and it does make a huge
> difference.
>
> Significantly reduces cranking current, motors the engine better, and starts
> quicker.
>
> - Bob Mann
>
>
>> On May 9, 2020, at 17:26, Paul Kort via Datsun-roadsters
>> <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> At Sloan Racing, we used gear reduction starters on both 1600s. Lighter &
>> stronger than even the 2000's U20 starter. I probably shouldn't mention it,
>> but I installed on in my '73 MGB GT when the stock one failed. Bought all 3
>> at TSI Imports
>> http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/gearreductionstarters.html . Call Ted
>> and tell him Paul sent you, although I'm not sure if he'll laugh, .... or
>> just hang up! :-)
>>
>> Paul
>> Ohio
>>
>>>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:23 PM Barney Murphy via Datsun-roadsters
>>>> <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> Hey folks.
>>>
>>> Just installed a gear reduction starter from Rallye and may I say...what a
>>> world of difference! Quick, strong rotation. Should've done this a long
>>> time ago!
>>>
>>> Be safe and stay healthy.
>>> Barney, Columbia, SC.
>>> 1969 2000
>>> ________________________________________
>>>
>>> datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters
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