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Re: [FOT] new race track design

To: dos_gusanos@msn.com
Subject: Re: [FOT] new race track design
From: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:56:00 -0700
Sounds more like a go-kart track.

On Jul 12, 2006, at 4:30 PM, <dos_gusanos@msn.com> wrote:

> Maybe I'm jumping in late on this one, I didn't read all the  
> posts.  But
> doesn't the new Alan Wilson Track in Utah have 23-26 some odd  
> corners compared
> to half that many at Road America over the same distance?  I  
> mentioned that it
> seemed kinda "mickey mouse" and my Utah buddies got all upset.  I  
> think Larry
> Miller has 70 million tied up in it.  Perhaps next time they'll  
> call me before
> breaking ground.....................Henry Morrison,  Albuquerque
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Kas Kastner<mailto:kaskas@cox.net>
>   To: Mike Jackson<mailto:grandwazoo@earthlink.net> ;
> fot@autox.team.net<mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:04 PM
>   Subject: Re: [FOT] new race track design
>
>
>   Why not first ask how successful a racer he was, and therefore  
> how to you
>   design a course for RACERS.
>   Maybe his wife would know more about passing zones.
>
>   Never Be beaten by Equipment
>   Kas Kastner
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Mike Jackson
>     To: Jack W. Drews ; fot@autox.team.net<mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
>     Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:25 PM
>     Subject: Re: [FOT] new race track design
>
>
>     I agree!  Take it up with Alan Wilson, the designer of the vast  
> majority
> of
>   new road courses.  Cant help but wonder what he has as his design  
> criteria.
>
>     Mike Jackson
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Jack W. Drews"  
>> <vinttr4@geneseo.net<mailto:vinttr4@geneseo.net>>
>> Sent: Jul 11, 2006 9:49 AM
>> To: fot@autox.team.net<mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [FOT] new race track design
>>
>> Some personal musings, just for a discussion starter:
>>
>> I am really pleased to see the number of new tracks that have opened
>> in the USA in the last couple of years.
>>
>> At the same time, I am genuinely disappointed at the layout of most
>> of them. From a driver's standpoint, a good track needs several
>> things to be fun and challenging. These include straights where you
>> can go fast plus corners that are challenging. But a road course also
>> needs to have more than one place in its two mile length where safe
>> passing is possible.
>>
>> It seems to me that in our racing, almost no passing occurs in a
>> stretch of road that is a continuous sequence of relatively tight
>> connected corners. Fun to drive, but not fun to race. There is a
>> distinction between the two. Most of these new tracks have one
>> straight and then the rest of the real estate is filled with
>> continuously connected corners. Examples are Mid America at Council
>> Bluffs, Gingerman to a degree, and nearly all of the private club
> tracks.
>>
>> Most older tracks that I can think of had multiple passing
>> opportunities. Think of Road America, Watkins Glen, and VIR as
>> examples. Granted, these are all bigger tracks where it is easier to
>> design what I'm talking about, and the new ones are much shorter.
>> However, most of the older shorter tracks, that are about two miles
>> in length, have multiple passing opportunities too  -- like Mosport,
>> Grattan, Lime Rock, Willow Springs, Portland, Blackhawk, and more.
>>
>> Not that we can do anything about it. Just an observation.
>>
>>
>> uncle jack
>>
>>
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