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To: jsiam1@earthlink.net, Lunkercars@earthlink.net, fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Dog-box kits
From: chasgee@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:27:17 -0500
Keep in mind that the ratios are the same as the Dolomite close ratio set
(except for first) so the lap times won't improve that much.  There may be
some benefit to the "clutchless" shifting, but other things in the drivetrain
may start to break.  Too bad they don't have off the shelf ratios like Hewland
or Webster.  If they did, then you would see a big benefit.

Still, that's a good price for the amount of work required to do it yourself.

Chuck


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Siam <jsiam1@earthlink.net>
To: Greg Lunker Hilyer <Lunkercars@earthlink.net>; Friends Triumph'Triumph
<fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 23, 2009 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Dog-box kits


Hi All  I build a Dog Box for the Spitfires. It is a lot of work to put
together
nd is worth at least a few seconds a lap on most of our tracks  At $2127 thats
 good price.  Does it use stock shift forks bearings and spacers?  Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Lunker Hilyer <Lunkercars@earthlink.net>
Sent: Nov 23, 2009 5:18 PM
To: Friends Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Dog-box kits

Hello all,
I've had quite a bit of interest so here's a bit more info.
The deal available:
For Quaife there is nothing available off the shelf. Minimum run is
10 at the price of $2127 ea. and 16 weeks from order date to shipping
from the UK. They have no-cost options of TR6 or Dolomite main-shaft
and a 2.013 or 2.223 1st. The others are 1.513 2nd, 1.205 3rd and of
course 1.00 4th. Alternate ratios MIGHT be possible. Haven't
discussed it but maybe we could get a O.D. shaft as well.
Kit consists of:
4 speed dog engagement gearkit,
Straight cut, close ratio gears,
Needle roller bearings support free running gears,
QUAIFE mainshaft included.

I can get a guarantee of 16 weeks - if for some reason there is a
delay, individuals could opt-out but the order would still go thru.
75% deposit may or may not be negotiable. Includes shipping to
Michigan, shipping to your address at cost. Other countries can be
drop-shipped from the UK.
At first impression the price seemed beyond my cheapo budgeting. But
if it gives a bit of longevity over our synchro boxes, it might be
better and more cost effective in the long run - and superior. The
only production-car dog-box I've driven is a Bugeye, but what a
dreamy transmission - a guy could get used to that.  Honestly it
might be worth a second a lap [anywhere]  just in lightning-fast shifts.
Any opinions as the strength/reliability to be gained?
Any ideas on a alternative manufacturer that might offer a superior
product or price?
All the dog-boxes I know of in Bugeyes use Tiliton clutches - is that
really necessary?
Seems to me more to the "Vintage Spirit" than anything using a non-
OEM case and vastly superior.
Anyone want to put this out to the TVR/Morgan lists?

Greg "Lunker" Hilyer ---  With broken transmissions stacked like cord-
wood. And honest... I'm easy on transmissions in anything but a TR.
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM
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