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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions
From: John Hasty <jhhasty@gdhs.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:45:32 -0500
Cc: FOT <fot@autox.team.net>
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Ok you guys.  Remember Sears Point & Watkins Glen & if you are mature enough
Riverside oh and 24 hrs @ Daytona.

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On Dec 26, 2012, at 10:01 PM, "Steve Yott" <tr4@wi.rr.com> wrote:

> Now that's funny!
> Steve
>
> From: trmarty@hotmail.com [mailto:trmarty@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:43 PM
> To: John Hasty; Jim Gray
> Cc: <tr4@wi.rr.com>; FOT
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions
>
> Car probably would not be able to turn right any more if we did that :)
>
> Marty
>
> Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wirelessb"
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: John Hasty <jhhasty@gdhs.com>
> To: Jim Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
> Cc: "<tr4@wi.rr.com>" <tr4@wi.rr.com>, marty sukey <trmarty@hotmail.com>,
FOT <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Dec 27, 2012 02:35:02 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions
>
> Gee whiz guys. Maybe you should consider sending your cranks down here to
NASCAR country. These guys do it right.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 9:03 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote:
>
> > Steve & Marty
> > The copper head gasket could be the shim type gasket. The old shim steel
> > gaskets are now shim copper gaskets and are very soft.
> > On the crank plugs I learned early to ask for them to be removed when
> > I get the crank back. My ex-crank grinder never sent it back clean.
> > Always packed with cuttings & debris.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
> > Behalf Of Steve Yott
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:23 PM
> > To: 'marty sukey'; 'FOT'
> > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions
> >
> > What I have found through past experience is that with a solid copper
head
> > gasket you want the protrusion on the low side of spec and maybe down to
> > .002" The reading you have is way too much for any of the current
gaskets.
> > If I surface the top of the block, which is frequently needed I correct
the
> > cylinder protrusion by taking off the required length from the seat of
the
> > liners. I made a setup on my lathe to make this a fairly easy process
since
> > I do a lot of these builds.
> >
> > As far as the crankshaft.... Any reputable crank grinder will as part of
the
> > process remove the plugs, grind the crank, thoroughly clean and reinstall
> > new plugs! If you find one that does not follow this process find a new
> > crankshaft grinder. I have noticed a number of decent crank grinders
> > closing shop these days. There are many reasons for this which are
> > understandable in today's economy and lack of engine rebuilds being
> > accomplished. If you do find a good crank grinder spread the word and
help
> > these folks out. With the lack of work available and only being able to
> > charge about $250 for a grinding it    is very hard to make money when
their
> > machines cost around $50k or more.
> >
> > Steve Yott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
> > Behalf Of marty sukey
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:54 PM
> > To: FOT
> > Subject: [Fot] TR4 build questions
> >
> > A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on
> > the liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is
a
> > HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head
> > gasket is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel
and
> > could be probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec.
> > Question is, do I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok?
> >
> > Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove
> > the cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out
sufficiently.
> > It looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of
> > the hex's are stripped out. Should I    remove/replace these? I'm thinking
they
> > will be challenging based upon some being stripped already.
> >
> > Thanks,
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